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+18Peggy zyph harvetheslayer VillageGreen mouldyoldgoat akagreengull sufferedsince 68 Jethro GreenDick25 PlymptonPilgrim PatDunne tigertony Sir Francis Drake Les Miserable RegGreen Tgwu seadog Czarcasm 22 posters |
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| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:22 pm | |
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zyph
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| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:25 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:27 pm | |
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sufferedsince 68
Posts : 6420 Join date : 2014-06-01 Location : Brentocabin
| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:15 pm | |
| They acted quickly and got rid, right decision. |
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| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:16 pm | |
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zyph
Posts : 13400 Join date : 2014-03-02 Age : 85
| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:22 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:53 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:54 pm | |
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Czarcasm
Posts : 10244 Join date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:12 pm | |
| - Angry wrote:
- beesrus wrote:
- A good decision from the club. Not the sort that I would want hanging around, for all manner of reasons. McCormick is a different case, and rehabilitation of offenders must be a part of our society. He has admitted guilt and served his sentence with due contrition. No such contrition from these characters. Scottish law is eons ahead of us neanderthals south of the border.
Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment is always a good read if any of us want to re acquaint ourselves with the whole subject, and personal/social process. Heavy stuff. Wouldn't want to be a judge. if anything McCormick tarnishes this club more than goodwillie may have done. McCormick's crime was by far alot worse. Scotland can go feck itself for all i care especially on this burns night. Geddon Angers. |
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akagreengull Admin
Posts : 7624 Join date : 2012-01-12 Age : 68 Location : Mutant Abbot
| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:13 pm | |
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zyph
Posts : 13400 Join date : 2014-03-02 Age : 85
| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:25 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:35 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:42 pm | |
| Says it all really, when the OP is about one of our former players involved in Rape allegations and you can resort to personal insults to a fellow poster. |
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| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:52 pm | |
| - Graiser wrote:
- Says it all really, when the OP is about one of our former players involved in Rape allegations and you can resort to personal insults to a fellow poster.
well i actually commented on it in reply to someone else. i fail to see yours or zyph's comment on the matter so who is taking it off track? |
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tigertony
Posts : 2406 Join date : 2012-01-05
| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:35 pm | |
| When Argyle signed him the case had been archived as ''not enough evidence'' and I suspect DG was confident that a civil trial would find in his favour. To me two sentences in the report speak volumes: She claimed Goodwillie and Robertson, 30, raped her at a flat in Armadale, in West Lothian, following a night out. She said she could not remember what happened after being in a Bathgate bar and woke up in a strange flat the following morning.
So - if she can't remember .....
DG has no criminal record and, in England, would pass a DBS check. He could just pay the money and walk away but he is absolutely focused on clearing his name completely. |
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PatDunne
Posts : 2614 Join date : 2013-11-21 Age : 63
| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:58 pm | |
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tigertony
Posts : 2406 Join date : 2012-01-05
| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:50 am | |
| - PatDunne wrote:
- Words fail me.......
They don't normally? |
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| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:46 am | |
| - tigertony wrote:
- When Argyle signed him the case had been archived as ''not enough evidence'' and I suspect DG was confident that a civil trial would find in his favour. To me two sentences in the report speak volumes:
She claimed Goodwillie and Robertson, 30, raped her at a flat in Armadale, in West Lothian, following a night out. She said she could not remember what happened after being in a Bathgate bar and woke up in a strange flat the following morning.
So - if she can't remember .....
DG has no criminal record and, in England, would pass a DBS check. He could just pay the money and walk away but he is absolutely focused on clearing his name completely. You really a clueless moron aren't you. If consent is not given then its rape, its no wonder with attitudes like yours that of 1000 rape cases 994 walk free. Which has happened in this case, however in this instance the woman waived her right to anonymity and decided she determined to gain some justice.
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| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:48 am | |
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akagreengull Admin
Posts : 7624 Join date : 2012-01-12 Age : 68 Location : Mutant Abbot
| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:53 am | |
| - tigertony wrote:
- When Argyle signed him the case had been archived as ''not enough evidence'' and I suspect DG was confident that a civil trial would find in his favour. To me two sentences in the report speak volumes:
She claimed Goodwillie and Robertson, 30, raped her at a flat in Armadale, in West Lothian, following a night out. She said she could not remember what happened after being in a Bathgate bar and woke up in a strange flat the following morning.
So - if she can't remember .....
DG has no criminal record and, in England, would pass a DBS check. He could just pay the money and walk away but he is absolutely focused on clearing his name completely. So you take two sentences out of a ninety page plus court report, completely out of context and infer that the woman involved is not a credible witness. Talk about being judgemental and blinkered. |
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tigertony
Posts : 2406 Join date : 2012-01-05
| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:18 pm | |
| - Hugh Watt wrote:
- tigertony wrote:
- When Argyle signed him the case had been archived as ''not enough evidence'' and I suspect DG was confident that a civil trial would find in his favour. To me two sentences in the report speak volumes:
She claimed Goodwillie and Robertson, 30, raped her at a flat in Armadale, in West Lothian, following a night out. She said she could not remember what happened after being in a Bathgate bar and woke up in a strange flat the following morning.
So - if she can't remember .....
DG has no criminal record and, in England, would pass a DBS check. He could just pay the money and walk away but he is absolutely focused on clearing his name completely. You really a clueless moron aren't you.
If consent is not given then its rape, its no wonder with attitudes like yours that of 1000 rape cases 994 walk free. Which has happened in this case, however in this instance the woman waived her right to anonymity and decided she determined to gain some justice.
Yep! I'm not taking sides at all but just pointing out some comments from the case. She could not remember ..... anything!!! There is no proof of anything on either side so, as in the eyes of the law, not enough evidence to prosecute. I think I'll stick with the law enforcers rather than your blinkered clueless response thanks.
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Peggy
Posts : 1586 Join date : 2013-03-24 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:26 pm | |
| - tigertony wrote:
- Hugh Watt wrote:
- tigertony wrote:
- When Argyle signed him the case had been archived as ''not enough evidence'' and I suspect DG was confident that a civil trial would find in his favour. To me two sentences in the report speak volumes:
She claimed Goodwillie and Robertson, 30, raped her at a flat in Armadale, in West Lothian, following a night out. She said she could not remember what happened after being in a Bathgate bar and woke up in a strange flat the following morning.
So - if she can't remember .....
DG has no criminal record and, in England, would pass a DBS check. He could just pay the money and walk away but he is absolutely focused on clearing his name completely. You really a clueless moron aren't you.
If consent is not given then its rape, its no wonder with attitudes like yours that of 1000 rape cases 994 walk free. Which has happened in this case, however in this instance the woman waived her right to anonymity and decided she determined to gain some justice.
Yep! I'm not taking sides at all but just pointing out some comments from the case. She could not remember ..... anything!!! There is no proof of anything on either side so, as in the eyes of the law, not enough evidence to prosecute. I think I'll stick with the law enforcers rather than your blinkered clueless response thanks. Just to add that I did get someone off a serious charge once (not against another person) on the basis that they were so drunk they could have had no idea what they were doing. You are taking sides, though. You've conveniently left out the fact that she could remember waking up, naked and in pain, in a strange flat. Not to mention some of the other evidence that's been widely reported. I only hope you haven't got any daughters. |
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Czarcasm
Posts : 10244 Join date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:55 pm | |
| - tigertony wrote:
- Hugh Watt wrote:
- tigertony wrote:
- When Argyle signed him the case had been archived as ''not enough evidence'' and I suspect DG was confident that a civil trial would find in his favour. To me two sentences in the report speak volumes:
She claimed Goodwillie and Robertson, 30, raped her at a flat in Armadale, in West Lothian, following a night out. She said she could not remember what happened after being in a Bathgate bar and woke up in a strange flat the following morning.
So - if she can't remember .....
DG has no criminal record and, in England, would pass a DBS check. He could just pay the money and walk away but he is absolutely focused on clearing his name completely. You really a clueless moron aren't you.
If consent is not given then its rape, its no wonder with attitudes like yours that of 1000 rape cases 994 walk free. Which has happened in this case, however in this instance the woman waived her right to anonymity and decided she determined to gain some justice.
Yep! I'm not taking sides at all but just pointing out some comments from the case. She could not remember ..... anything!!! There is no proof of anything on either side so, as in the eyes of the law, not enough evidence to prosecute. I think I'll stick with the law enforcers rather than your blinkered clueless response thanks. Just to add that I did get someone off a serious charge once (not against another person) on the basis that they were so drunk they could have had no idea what they were doing. Wow, impressive Tone. I'm not a huge fan of the in-laws. Give me your number, I'll get blind drunk and finish them off, then you can ensure I walk free. |
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| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:56 pm | |
| - tigertony wrote:
- Hugh Watt wrote:
- tigertony wrote:
- When Argyle signed him the case had been archived as ''not enough evidence'' and I suspect DG was confident that a civil trial would find in his favour. To me two sentences in the report speak volumes:
She claimed Goodwillie and Robertson, 30, raped her at a flat in Armadale, in West Lothian, following a night out. She said she could not remember what happened after being in a Bathgate bar and woke up in a strange flat the following morning.
So - if she can't remember .....
DG has no criminal record and, in England, would pass a DBS check. He could just pay the money and walk away but he is absolutely focused on clearing his name completely. You really a clueless moron aren't you.
If consent is not given then its rape, its no wonder with attitudes like yours that of 1000 rape cases 994 walk free. Which has happened in this case, however in this instance the woman waived her right to anonymity and decided she determined to gain some justice.
Yep! I'm not taking sides at all but just pointing out some comments from the case. She could not remember ..... anything!!! There is no proof of anything on either side so, as in the eyes of the law, not enough evidence to prosecute. I think I'll stick with the law enforcers rather than your blinkered clueless response thanks. Just to add that I did get someone off a serious charge once (not against another person) on the basis that they were so drunk they could have had no idea what they were doing. You really are stupid. If you're going to stick with the "Law enforcers" as you put it, you should take note of Lord Armstrong QCs ruling and his comment that Goodwillies evidence was "selfish and unreliable". If he isn't a "Law Enforcer" what with him being a Judge, I don't know what the feck is. Well done for preventing your mate getting nicked for pissing in a bush, has it led to you being called to the bar yet? And you clearly are taking sides, just like you did when claiming sex abuse victims were just after the "compo". |
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sufferedsince 68
Posts : 6420 Join date : 2014-06-01 Location : Brentocabin
| Subject: Re: Goodwillie Court case. Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:10 pm | |
| - tigertony wrote:
- When Argyle signed him the case had been archived as ''not enough evidence'' and I suspect DG was confident that a civil trial would find in his favour. To me two sentences in the report speak volumes:
She claimed Goodwillie and Robertson, 30, raped her at a flat in Armadale, in West Lothian, following a night out. She said she could not remember what happened after being in a Bathgate bar and woke up in a strange flat the following morning.
So - if she can't remember .....
DG has no criminal record and, in England, would pass a DBS check. He could just pay the money and walk away but he is absolutely focused on clearing his name completely. You really are a sad twat, was she just after compo like the Savile victims? do us all a favour and fvck off back to Pasoti. |
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