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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:30 pm

Davy Cameron might aswell sort out a nice patio and plant some tree's in the garden of no 10, he's going to have years and years there to watch them grow:lol!:
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:10 pm

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Doesn't look good that thousands of people never received a ballot paper.

I got 18 and 15 of them counted.

Go Jezza.

I don't get these people whining at all, who in their right mind would expect the Labour Party to be able to organise a piss up in a brewery?
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:00 pm

I wouldn't be too sure about another twenty years of Tory rule, Corbyn speaks a lot of sense and has offered to represent the majority of the population, sure it will challenge some people's perception of what is achievable or what works but the very least we can expect is a swing towards the left from way over on the right hand side now shorely that can't be a bad thing.
And Fcuk you Tony Blair you Thatcherite wanker, let's hope this is the end of two Tories parties in opposition to each other.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:07 pm

Congratulations to the labour party two unelectable leaders voted in as leaders in a row (sic)
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:10 pm

Oh come now, you can't compare Miiliband to Corbs, who were the other three candidates? scratch I'm looking forward to it.
Anyway how can you call somebody that has the most powerful people in the country engineering his downfall, who goes on to win the election with 59% of the vote unelectable? Truly baffling.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:19 pm

Difference between Corbyn and the Michael Foot era is that now millions of young very well educated people have no possibility of ever buying a house and/or will never have a pension and see no way out of a life working with nothing to show for it except debt. Back in the early 80s Thatcher made it easy for young people to get on the property ladder and create their own wealth which is why the young voted tory in their millions and poor old Michael's Labour was seen as completely unelectable and something only swivel eyed loons voted for. Times are completely different now. Corbyn's Labour will begin to look very attractive indeed to a lot of young people. And to many others affected by the Tories rampaging austerity. If the tories aren't worried, then they should be.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:27 pm

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Labour health minister resigns due to Corbyn victory.

Good. I hope they all resign, join the Tories of another party. The party was infiltrated by the rich militant Blairites, now they're being kicked out by the grass roots. Movements start somewhere, and people are fed up with the smarmy corporate sell outs. Again, Europe is polarising, and this is part of that unstoppable shift.Mass unionised labour has disappeared, something else is taking it's place
Usual comments on here from those who have never been involved in anything political outside of question time with Dimblebore, your mate Suffers.Very Happy Just repeating what they hear in the propagaaaaaaanda press.
And spot on Freathy. The Tories know a vibrant left party is far harder to beat than the mess that Brown left behind.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:37 pm

It will be interesting to see whether the party are able to or even now want to remove him from the headship now after the size of his victory? I'd love to be a fly on the wall in several rooms right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:58 pm

They have absolutely no chance of doing that, none whatsoever. The party of the people would be finished and morph into a totally different animal. They've been out manouevered by a movement under the radar their silly focus groups didn't detect. It's too late for them now. In truth, they were finished when their war criminal mega rich guru mouth was booted out.
I just hope all that parliamentary smarm pick up their severance pay and go get a job where they'll be appreciated. Don't underestimate a grass roots movement that could actually mean something real.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:22 pm

sufferedsince 68 wrote:
Davy Cameron might aswell sort out a nice patio and plant some tree's in the garden of no 10, he's going to have years and years there to watch them grow:lol!:




Might not be so with that snide at No11 wanting the top job.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:27 pm

This is bad news for the country. You talk of the 'grass roots' movement but the truth is that there isn't enough of you. The world has moved on. The Government, any Government, needs a viable opposition and Corbyn and his disciples will not provide it.

It is/was an anti politics vote. Perfectly understandable but it will end in tears for the Labour Party.


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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:42 pm

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Les Miserable wrote:
Labour health minister resigns due to Corbyn victory.

Good. I hope they all resign, join the Tories of another party. The party was infiltrated by the rich militant Blairites, now they're being kicked out by the grass roots. Movements start somewhere, and people are fed up with the smarmy corporate sell outs. Again, Europe is polarising, and this is part of that unstoppable shift.Mass unionised labour has disappeared, something else is taking it's place
Usual comments on here from those who have never been involved in anything political outside of question time with Dimblebore, your mate Suffers.Very Happy  Just repeating what they hear in the propagaaaaaaanda press.
And spot on Freathy. The Tories know a vibrant left party is far harder to beat than the mess that Brown left behind.

I never watch question time Sir J or claim to be an expert on politics, its just my opinion that Jezza is a fantasist stuck in a seventies time warp. i will now leave the political field to you Lefty Loonies!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:44 pm

Hey, Rollo, you'm just one of them there Tory chappies I've heard talk of in the press, disguising yourself , infiltrating Jezza's victory celebrations. Hop off back across those benches and prepare for opposition.#pussycats  Very Happy
I expect no different from a football forum. Football is hardly a left wing bastion in this country outside the obvious Liverpool connection wihh Ireland.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:47 pm

Your right Rollo, very bad news for the country that Cameron now doesn't have a credible opposition.

Incredible to see Sir John so ecstatic over Jizzer's victory. His belief in the hammer & sickle is so very reminiscent of someone else who used to post here. Whatever happened to her ?
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:53 pm

Sir John Hawkins wrote:
Hey, Rollo, you'm just one of them there Tory chappies I've heard talk of in the press, disguising yourself , infiltrating Jezza's victory celebrations. Hop off back across those benches and prepare for opposition.#pussycats  Very Happy
I expect no different from a football forum. Football is hardly a left wing bastion in this country outside the obvious Liverpool connection wihh Ireland.


I'm shore other forums are available if it's a liberal left lovefest you seek Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:12 pm

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Your right Rollo, very bad news for the country that Cameron now doesn't have a credible opposition.

Incredible to see Sir John so ecstatic over Jizzer's victory. His belief in the hammer & sickle is so very reminiscent of someone else who used to post here. Whatever happened to her ?

Funnily enough, FY310, that's one of the long term reasons I'm delighted with Corbyn's victory. The cosy slide into Westminster/corporate sex will be brought into sharp focus whichever way things turn out. Politics and representation need a new form, given that the parliament itself has surrendered time and time again since the glorious 5 years aftr WW2. People's opinions are what they are. If parliament doesn't reflect that, it will be taken up somewhere else. The SNp socialist thing is a godsend to democracy. With an inbuilt Tory majority every 5 years, the whole Westminster democracy charade will collapse. I can't wait. Might be a bit rocky, but,hry, you only live once. The Tories on their estates will have to fall out among themselves. Democracy is about balance and stability, so people with too much capital with nowhere to put it can sell trinkets and ipads to the natives. I could go on. .......... And on.

And nothiing to do with the murdering hammer and sickle drug cheating, farmlike, pasotilike authoritarian Soviet state capitalist regime.
As for former posters, I don't blame anyone who wants to jump off the football forum thing any time they like. Life still goes on elsewhere, well apart from the terminally addicted,
Serious politics is enacted everyday in how we live. This is just a chirp among Argyle fans


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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:29 pm

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Incredible to see Sir John so ecstatic over Jizzer's victory. His belief in the hammer & sickle is so very reminiscent of someone else who used to post here. Whatever happened to her ?

If you're talking about me, then (a) it's none of your business, but (b) I stopped following Argyle or any football the day Webb, Newell and Jones got me sacked from writing for the programme because I'd dared to speak out against some of their antics, notably the imposition of Webb's ultras in an area of longstanding season ticket holders, and (c) I pretty much stopped posting on here when Newell decided to launch yet another attack on me hours after I'd found my mother dead.

Is all that ok with you?
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:30 pm

The next election will see labour get the mother of all chinnings.
Corporate dictates nowadays corbryn is a dinosaur even his own party know it. Ask labour mps how delighted they are with todays result........

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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:32 pm

Voted Green last time. Would probably vote Labour, if the election was next week.

Anti-war, anti tax-evasion, anti-monarchy, anti-privatisation stitch ups.
Pro wimmin, pro workers, pro NHS, pro housing, pro education.

If he went further on his energy policy then he'd scoop loads of the Greens 1m+ voters of last time, and at least by changing the subject and making enough noise about the above issues, some of the Kippers too. If Farage's common sense, pint in hand geez dain the local persona can get nearly 4m voters in spite of having just one policy, then Corbyn's non poli-gloss way, plus his actual policies, can foreshorely nab a few of those back?
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:33 pm

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FY 310 wrote:
Incredible to see Sir John so ecstatic over Jizzer's victory. His belief in the hammer & sickle is so very reminiscent of someone else who used to post here. Whatever happened to her ?

If you're talking about me, then (a) it's none of your business, but (b) I stopped following Argyle or any football the day Webb, Newell and Jones got me sacked from writing for the programme because I'd dared to speak out against some of their antics, notably the imposition of Webb's ultras in an area of longstanding season ticket holders, and (c) I pretty much stopped posting on here when Newell decided to launch yet another attack on me hours after I'd found my mother dead.

Is all that ok with you?

cheers

(not for the content, obvs foreshore peggers, but for the fact that you're peeking in)
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:37 pm

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Difference between Corbyn and the Michael Foot era is that now millions of young very well educated people have no possibility of ever buying a house and/or will never have a pension and see no way out of a life working with nothing to show for it except debt.  Back in the early 80s Thatcher made it easy for young people to get on the property ladder and create their own wealth which is why the young voted tory in their millions and poor old Michael's Labour was seen as completely unelectable and something only swivel eyed loons voted for.  Times are completely different now.  Corbyn's Labour will begin to look very attractive indeed to a lot of young people.  And to many others affected by the Tories rampaging austerity.  If the tories aren't worried, then they should be.


You make a good point reference well educated cant afford houses etc but a lot will be ok and will not be too bothered as they get 'one' up if they will get a 'leg up' from mummy and daddy who will also babysit their grandkids to help pay the mortgage.


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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:42 pm

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Funnily enough, FY310, that's one of the long term reasons I'm delighted with Corbyn's victory. The cosy slide into Westminster/corporate sex will be brought into sharp focus whichever way things turn out. Politics and representation need a new form, given that the parliament itself has surrendered time and time again since the glorious 5 years aftr WW2. People's opinions are what they are. If parliament doesn't reflect that, it will be taken up somewhere else. The SNp socialist thing is a godsend to democracy. With an inbuilt Tory majority every 5 years, the whole Westminster democracy charade will collapse. I can't wait. Might be a bit rocky, but,hry, you only live once. The Tories on their estates will have to fall out among themselves. Democracy is about balance and stability, so people with too much capital with nowhere to put it can sell trinkets and ipads to the natives. I could go on. .......... And on.

And nothiing to do with the murdering hammer and sickle drug cheating, farmlike, pasotilike authoritarian Soviet state capitalist regime.
As for former posters, I don't blame anyone who wants to jump off the football forum thing any time they like. Life still goes on elsewhere, well apart from the terminally addicted,
Serious politics is enacted everyday in how we live. This is just a chirp among Argyle fans

It'll certainly be the end of the red tories vs blue tories of the past 18 years. Be interesting to see how Corbyn plans to overcome the EU influence & their moulding of our mainstream parties in their image, he's certainly well left of their comfort zone.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:13 pm

None of us know where it's going FY. With the immigration thing, the Merkel conservatives could be booted out by the far right and a repeat of the past.,  All bets would be off then.  My nose tells me war is the most likely.

At this moment in time, I'll still vote green as they are well to the left of Corbyn, but who knows. I bumped into a long time activist on the footpath to Cawsand  today, who was also at the guildhall meeting. He's thinking of joining the Labour party for the very first time, and actually voting next time around. He and his family have never voted for any Westminster bunch. The left wing is very resourceful, but hasn't put it's weight behind labour for a very long time.
We shall see. The more the herald-like press ridicule and scare about Corbyn, the more it will work for him.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:33 pm

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If you're talking about me, then (a) it's none of your business, but (b) I stopped following Argyle or any football the day Webb, Newell and Jones got me sacked from writing for the programme because I'd dared to speak out against some of their antics, notably the imposition of Webb's ultras in an area of longstanding season ticket holders, and (c) I pretty much stopped posting on here when Newell decided to launch yet another attack on me hours after I'd found my mother dead.

Is all that ok with you?

Nope, I was thinking of someone else, but thanks for posting & really sorry to hear of all your woes.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:53 pm

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None of us know where it's going FY. With the immigration thing, the Merkel conservatives could be booted out by the far right and a repeat of the past.,  All bets would be off then.  My nose tells me war is the most likely.

At this moment in time, I'll still vote green as they are well to the left of Corbyn, but who knows. I bumped into a long time activist on the footpath to Cawsand  today, who was also at the guildhall meeting. He's thinking of joining the Labour party for the very first time, and actually voting next time around. He and his family have never voted for any Westminster bunch. The left wing is very resourceful, but hasn't put it's weight behind labour for a very long time.
We shall see. The more the herald-like press ridicule and scare about Corbyn, the more it will work for him.


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