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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Wed May 10, 2017 12:05 am

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I think PCC have a game v The Lashings XI coming up for those who like that sort of thing.

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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Wed May 10, 2017 8:56 am

A bit more info

The money had increase from £6m to £9m, the extra money has come from developers and grants from national sports  federation, FA, LTA and others. Not all 2013 plan is needed now has some elements of the plan has been built at other places around Plymouth. £80,000 will go on consultant fees and plans for a drainage scheme for all of the park.

Zoe Sydenham of PCC will hold some walkabouts around the park as part of the consultation, time and dates will be advertised.

FOCP will draw up their response to the plan at their next meeting in June, individual response can still be made to PCC.


The only bad news I heard this morning concerning the cricket pitch, it could be a land swap with the park dep site. just hear say at the moment.
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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Fri May 19, 2017 8:25 am

E-mail from FOCP

Dear Friend of Central Park,

Please click on the link below to take part in the consultation on Phase 1 of the Park’s Capital Improvements.  Individual responses are welcome and the FoCPP Committee will be preparing a response on behalf of the Friends Group.  If there are any points which you think ought to be made, please let me know before 24th May.

The Annual General Meeting will be held in the Bowling Pavilion at 7.30 pm on Thursday, 22nd June.  Formal notice and papers will be sent early next month but, meanwhile, please note the time in diaries.

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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Fri May 19, 2017 9:21 am

Serious question. How much of the park has been lost to development since the late 60's....?? I can recall doing a sponsored walk to aid funding of the Mayflower centre which eventually was replaced by the bigger life centre but also allowing for demolition of the original swimming pool.
I cant think or see any thing else has changed or encroached ?? Not saying there isnt but nothings jumping out at me
Edited....pay and display car park by life centre "marginally" bigger than the old swimming pool car park
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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Fri May 19, 2017 10:11 am

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Serious question. How much of the park has been lost to development since the late 60's....??  I can recall doing a sponsored walk to aid funding of the Mayflower centre which eventually was replaced by the bigger life centre but also allowing for demolition of the original swimming pool.
I cant think or see any thing else has changed or encroached ??  Not saying there isnt but nothings jumping out at me
Edited....pay and display car park by life centre "marginally" bigger than the old swimming pool car park

There are no pay and display car parks in the park
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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Fri May 19, 2017 10:27 am

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harvetheslayer wrote:
Serious question. How much of the park has been lost to development since the late 60's....??  I can recall doing a sponsored walk to aid funding of the Mayflower centre which eventually was replaced by the bigger life centre but also allowing for demolition of the original swimming pool.
I cant think or see any thing else has changed or encroached ??  Not saying there isnt but nothings jumping out at me
Edited....pay and display car park by life centre "marginally" bigger than the old swimming pool car park

There are no pay and display car parks in the park

ok you're picking a minor hole. Whats the signs splashed over the car parking area adjoining outlands rd and to side of the life centre ??
Have never stopped there but have seen many posts elsewhere of tickets being issued from there. Time limit perhaps for casual parking
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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Fri May 19, 2017 11:14 am

harvetheslayer wrote:
Serious question. How much of the park has been lost to development since the late 60's....??  I can recall doing a sponsored walk to aid funding of the Mayflower centre which eventually was replaced by the bigger life centre but also allowing for demolition of the original swimming pool.
I cant think or see any thing else has changed or encroached ??  Not saying there isnt but nothings jumping out at me
Edited....pay and display car park by life centre "marginally" bigger than the old swimming pool car park

A bleddy great big chunk was lost to the expansion of Milehouse junction, for starters. And the Life Centre car park (which is only for Life Centre users, hence others getting parking tickets) is massively bigger than the old swimming pool car park. Plus the houses and flats down the bottom by Pennycomequick.

That's just the bits I can think of.
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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Fri May 19, 2017 1:16 pm

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Tgwu wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Serious question. How much of the park has been lost to development since the late 60's....??  I can recall doing a sponsored walk to aid funding of the Mayflower centre which eventually was replaced by the bigger life centre but also allowing for demolition of the original swimming pool.
I cant think or see any thing else has changed or encroached ??  Not saying there isnt but nothings jumping out at me
Edited....pay and display car park by life centre "marginally" bigger than the old swimming pool car park

There are no pay and display car parks in the park

ok you're picking a minor hole. Whats the signs splashed over the car parking area adjoining outlands rd and to side of the life centre ??
Have never stopped there but have seen many posts elsewhere of tickets being issued from there. Time limit perhaps for casual parking

Not picking any holes, there is a small car park on the left as you come in the new milehouse entrance for Life Centre staff, all other car parks are free, you only receive tickets if you do not park in the bays or outside the car parks. No time limit.

Agree with Peggy The best play park was taken away when they took the corner for the Milehouse junction. The Parks dept size was increase and lost the land for Goals football centre site
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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Fri May 19, 2017 2:58 pm

Sir Francis Drake wrote:
Sir Francis Drake wrote:
I think PCC have a game v The Lashings XI coming up for those who like that sort of thing.

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John Emburey must be older than God's dog! Then again, he always struck me as the kind of fella who came out of the womb at 45 years old, and it's not like his game was ever about pure athleticism.
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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Fri May 19, 2017 5:19 pm

Peggy wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Serious question. How much of the park has been lost to development since the late 60's....??  I can recall doing a sponsored walk to aid funding of the Mayflower centre which eventually was replaced by the bigger life centre but also allowing for demolition of the original swimming pool.
I cant think or see any thing else has changed or encroached ??  Not saying there isnt but nothings jumping out at me
Edited....pay and display car park by life centre "marginally" bigger than the old swimming pool car park

A bleddy great big chunk was lost to the expansion of Milehouse junction, for starters. And the Life Centre car park (which is only for Life Centre users, hence others getting parking tickets) is massively bigger than the old swimming pool car park. Plus the houses and flats down the bottom by Pennycomequick.

That's just the bits I can think of.

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Definitely a big chunk gone for the Milehouse Junction but the pre-Life Centre existing car parks don't really show.
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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Fri May 19, 2017 6:01 pm

Don't start me off on one......it's a nice sunny evening.

While we're on the subject of parks, take note that there is now a cafe, the pavilion cafe, in Victoria Park, based at the old lodge. Run by the people that run the Devonport park cafe. Get yourself down there for a cup of tea and more, it's easy to park on the road outside the entrance gates to the park by Hotham Place, or better still you lazy gits, take a stroll. Nice to see a sunny vantage point used at last. A sweet spot and adds to the life of the park.
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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Fri May 19, 2017 6:25 pm

Been there, nice girls, Son lives near and was told some resident are calling for resident parking permits around the area.

What about coming to the next meeting of FOCP
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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Fri May 19, 2017 6:50 pm

I keep meaning to Tg.
As for the parking, it's been an issue for many years now. It's more of a problem down the other end at Millbridge. I fully understand residents' concerns at hot spots. The other side of the park off North Road West is nearly all resident parking, and hs been for many years due to the city centre thing where people would park all day long while they went to work. Not any more they don't.
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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Sat May 20, 2017 7:48 am

Well I must have a walk around some time. The original road junction which I can barely remember at milehouse obviously was enlarged because of huge increases in traffic. I was talking of housing/industrial development on central park. The houses leading down to Pennycomequick roundabout surely only replaced what was originally there and were mostly derelict.

Tell me where a similar brent inspired HHP encroachment is on Central Park because I see none at all
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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Sat May 20, 2017 8:00 am

Peggy wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Serious question. How much of the park has been lost to development since the late 60's....??  I can recall doing a sponsored walk to aid funding of the Mayflower centre which eventually was replaced by the bigger life centre but also allowing for demolition of the original swimming pool.
I cant think or see any thing else has changed or encroached ??  Not saying there isnt but nothings jumping out at me
Edited....pay and display car park by life centre "marginally" bigger than the old swimming pool car park

A bleddy great big chunk was lost to the expansion of Milehouse junction, for starters. And the Life Centre car park (which is only for Life Centre users, hence others getting parking tickets) is massively bigger than the old swimming pool car park. Plus the houses and flats down the bottom by Pennycomequick.

That's just the bits I can think of.

Hold on you're completely forgetting the complete removal of the swimming pool itself and surrounds when talking "massively bigger car park" (its not anyway) it would be fair to say that the return of that to grass made up for the original land lost at milehouse junction as well.
In fact completely neutral overall encroachment as regards grass areas now as what 1970
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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Sat May 20, 2017 9:21 am

BHarve, you're way wrong especially as you're forgetting the life centre footprint itself that was built on the hockey pitch field and old green lane. The car parking area is huge now compared to previous. Then there's the skate board park that is hard cover, with the ground for visiting fairs far more 'industrialised'.
The most obvious attempt at year on year encroachment attempts was the football club under cover of the dodgy non charity green Taverners who applied for planning to hold their car boot sales ( again industrialise ) on Loves field. There's acres of concrete for them to hold their sales these days, and was clearly a sign of where the club owners and previous owners have set their greedy eyes. No wonder Hallet is going down the youth academy route on that side of the stadium. That whole area surrounding the old parks department depot is outside the green protection of the overall park strategy.
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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Sat May 20, 2017 12:12 pm

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BHarve, you're way wrong especially as you're forgetting the life centre footprint itself that was built on the hockey pitch field and old green lane. The car parking area is huge now compared to previous. Then there's the skate board park that is hard cover, with the ground for visiting fairs far more 'industrialised'.
The most obvious attempt at year on year encroachment attempts was the football club under cover of the dodgy non charity green Taverners who applied for planning to hold their car boot sales ( again industrialise ) on Loves field. There's acres of concrete for them to hold their sales these days, and was clearly a sign of where the club owners and previous owners have set their greedy eyes. No wonder Hallet is going down the youth academy route on that side of the stadium. That whole area surrounding the old parks department depot is outside the green protection of the overall park strategy.

The Life centre is built on the Mayflower football pitch and the lane running from the vets to HP, taking away two Devon hedges and the two hedges and lane running along the side of the pitch and the HHP carpark and the main entrance.

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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Sat May 20, 2017 12:46 pm

Tgwu wrote:
beesrus wrote:
BHarve, you're way wrong especially as you're forgetting the life centre footprint itself that was built on the hockey pitch field and old green lane. The car parking area is huge now compared to previous. Then there's the skate board park that is hard cover, with the ground for visiting fairs far more 'industrialised'.
The most obvious attempt at year on year encroachment attempts was the football club under cover of the dodgy non charity green Taverners who applied for planning to hold their car boot sales ( again industrialise ) on Loves field. There's acres of concrete for them to hold their sales these days, and was clearly a sign of where the club owners and previous owners have set their greedy eyes. No wonder Hallet is going down the youth academy route on that side of the stadium. That whole area surrounding the old parks department depot is outside the green protection of the overall park strategy.

The Life centre is built on the Mayflower football pitch and the lane running from the vets to HP, taking away two Devon hedges and the two hedges and lane running along the side of the pitch and the HHP carpark and the main entrance.

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but im i right in thinking all the land if not the majority they use to build the life centre was given back with the demolition off the central park/mayflower buildings?
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PostSubject: Re: FOCP   Sat May 20, 2017 2:37 pm

In relation to my original point of grass areas being returned to the park since 1970 in addition what was missed out was the Zoo area returned to grass
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