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PostSubject: cheltenham horses   Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:05 pm

anyone got any decent priced tips for next week? : bounce bounce bounce bounce
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:24 pm

So this isn't a thread about healthy eating then?
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:36 pm

Silvianaco conti for the gold cup, zarkander for the champion hurdle, nice eachway double in the big races, sprinter sacre is outstanding in the champion chase and could be the best jumper for many a year but not worth backing at 1-4.

David Pipe's horses have hit form and he will win a couple of handicaps as his horses will be on good marks.

Bit of rain forecast for the next week so it could be softer than usual. If it is soft or especially if it is heavy, look for French bred horses in the juvenile races, triumph hurdle and supreme novices hurdle.

I'll have a better look un a few days but my tips are generally shite on here. If I keep them to myself they do alright.
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:42 pm

The giveaway of the century is available on Coral at the moment. They are offering Evens on Sprinter Sacre for the Champion Chase to new and existing account holders.

This horse could win with another jockey on it as well as Barry Geraghty and is around 1-3 or 1-4 with other bookies.

I was going to say that this is the biggest giveaway I have ever seen and worth re-mortgaging your house over but in the smallprint you can only have £20 maximum so you're not going to be able to retire. It is the sort of thing that you can get your mates and your family to open accounts as well because this horse is as cast iron a certainty as you will ever see.

I reckon it will win by at least 10 lengths without breaking into a sweat. It's won at Cheltenham, it's beaten all the British horses at a canter and there are no Irish horses of any note this year in the race. It can win on good ground or soft ground and is like Pele and Maradonna rolled into one.

So it's only a free £20 but that's a few beers or an Argyle ticket for nothing Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:55 pm

I don't bother to have a punt anymore but I used to and followed the form and horse racing quite closely. One absolute guarantee is there is no such thing as a dead cert. There are horses that are a decent bet with a better than fair chance but guaranteed to win.........never. It's odds on favourites going down that lead bookies to the good life and make them fortunes. Winners at Cheltenham? The bookies. Won't stop people giving them the money though.

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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:58 pm

Sensiblegreeny wrote:
I don't bother to have a punt anymore but I used to and followed the form and horse racing quite closely. One absolute guarantee is there is no such thing as a dead cert. There are horses that are a decent bet with a better than fair chance but guaranteed to win.........never. It's odds on favourites going down that lead bookies to the good life and make them fortunes. Winners at Cheltenham? The bookies. Won't stop people giving them the money though.


I know this better than most Sensible, but this horse is amazing. It jumps without breaking it's stride and gains lengths at the fences. Obviously it could get hampered and brought down by another horse or break it's leg in a freak accident, but it is generally a 1-4 shot and Corals are giving you evens. It's like Christmas come early but unfortunately they have the £20 limit.

Still it's enough for a new Warcraft figure for Hairy as a Xmas present if you think of it that way Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:49 am

i always like the the cross country race.i think i'll be on Outlaw pete.no reason ,other than my brother is called pete
i cant be bothered with all this form lark,
probs why im always skint Question cheers
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:23 am

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i always like the the cross country race.i think i'll be on Outlaw pete.no reason ,other than my brother is called pete
i cant be bothered with all this form lark,
probs why im always skint Question cheers

The Irish and in particular Emmett Bolger usually win the cross country race. Not sure why, maybe his training area has a similar course or layout.
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:26 pm

There's been a lot of money over the last few days for Sgt. Reckless in the Champion bumper(Flat race for national hunt horses).

It's still available at 10-1 so well worth an eachway bet still and because it's Cheltenham lots of bookies will pay 4 places.

It's trained by Mick Channon the ex-Southampton and England footballer, who is a pretty big time trainer these days on the flat. He's recently taken over Henrietta Knight's horses and stables, she trained Best Mate to win the Gold Cup 3 times, and has a good few national hunt horses as well as flat.

He has had 4 winners out of 7 runners in bumpers so far and Sgt. Reckless has had two races and won them both.

The significant thing is that Richard Hughes is going to ride the horse and he is a flat jockey, and one of the very best in the world so that's a big tip in itself, and Mick Channon has been raving about the horse for the last couple of weeks and says it's a sure-fire winner. I doubt very much it's a sure-fire winner but it's got a lot going for it at a nice price.

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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:53 am

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There's been a lot of money over the last few days for Sgt. Reckless in the Champion bumper(Flat race for national hunt horses).

It's still available at 10-1 so well worth an eachway bet still and because it's Cheltenham lots of bookies will pay 4 places.

It's trained by Mick Channon the ex-Southampton and England footballer, who is a pretty big time trainer these days on the flat. He's recently taken over Henrietta Knight's horses and stables, she trained Best Mate to win the Gold Cup 3 times, and has a good few national hunt horses as well as flat.

He has had 4 winners out of 7 runners in bumpers so far and Sgt. Reckless has had two races and won them both.

The significant thing is that Richard Hughes is going to ride the horse and he is a flat jockey, and one of the very best in the world so that's a big tip in itself, and Mick Channon has been raving about the horse for the last couple of weeks and says it's a sure-fire winner. I doubt very much it's a sure-fire winner but it's got a lot going for it at a nice price.

that sounds spot on,mite put my pound on that one.a trainer near me called jeremy scott has EMPIRACLE running in the bumper,it looks quite good but dont the paddies usually aim for this race?
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:44 am

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Greenjock wrote:
There's been a lot of money over the last few days for Sgt. Reckless in the Champion bumper(Flat race for national hunt horses).

It's still available at 10-1 so well worth an eachway bet still and because it's Cheltenham lots of bookies will pay 4 places.

It's trained by Mick Channon the ex-Southampton and England footballer, who is a pretty big time trainer these days on the flat. He's recently taken over Henrietta Knight's horses and stables, she trained Best Mate to win the Gold Cup 3 times, and has a good few national hunt horses as well as flat.

He has had 4 winners out of 7 runners in bumpers so far and Sgt. Reckless has had two races and won them both.

The significant thing is that Richard Hughes is going to ride the horse and he is a flat jockey, and one of the very best in the world so that's a big tip in itself, and Mick Channon has been raving about the horse for the last couple of weeks and says it's a sure-fire winner. I doubt very much it's a sure-fire winner but it's got a lot going for it at a nice price.

that sounds spot on,mite put my pound on that one.a trainer near me called jeremy scott has EMPIRACLE running in the bumper,it looks quite good but dont the paddies usually aim for this race?

They do. Willie Mullins is a bit of a specialist in training them but he hasn't got one stand out horse this year in it, he's entered a few and no jockeys are booked yet.

There's 15 decent horses in it, thats the beauty of Cheltenham, but channon is very, very confident and it's been backed, also Richard Hughes is a great jockey booking..
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:05 pm

Dodging Bullets each way.
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:12 pm

So Cheltenham is almost upon us again and the weather forecast is very iffy with sub zero temperatures and snow/sleet forecast which might change the ground to soft or even heavy, where Cheltenham has been good ground for the majority of recent festivals.

Looking at tomorrow I like My Tent or Yours in the first race. Has looked outstanding in it's first season jumping and connections did consider running it as a novice in the Champion Hurdle which means it is very talented already. Its only around 2-1 and favourites have struggled in this race recently but I do think this could be something special so a win bet on this for me. At bigger odds, River Maigue could be an eachway bet at around 16-1.

I won't have a bet in the next race(The Arkle) because I think Simonsig will win and it's odds-on. The only danger is Overturn at around 3-1 so if I win in the first I might do this forecast.

The next is a difficult handicap that I might leave well alone but if pushed I would back Merry King eachway, currently around 8-1 to 12-1 depending where you back it. 4 places eachway as well on this race but it is very tricky.

The Champion Hurdle is next which is always a great race and former winner in 2011 Hurricane Fly is a worthy favourite at around 7-4, last years winner Rock on Ruby and the 2012 winner Binocular are also running, but I like Paul Nicholl's Zarkander especially if the ground is soft. 5th last year where it was finishing really well it's been better again this season and I've backed it already at 5-1 and 6-1 eachway. It's now best priced 7-2 and I think that's still good value for a win bet.

The next is the cross-country race which is a good spectacle with the horses jumping hurdles, fences and some three day event type obstacles and running up big banks. It's a bit of a specialist race to be honest and although I backed the winner last year I might not have a bet this year. The favourite is Arabella Boy, trained by Enda Bolger who is a cross country specialist really, who is probably getting better where as most of the runners are older horses towards the end of their careers. The 2010 winner A New Story has been placed 4 times in this race but is now 15 years old which is as old as Knecht in human terms Very Happy Again if pushed I do like Arabella Boy to win or Big Shu at a larger price eachway, but I won't bet big money.

In the next, Quevega is the superstar. The race is for mares, or horses that have given birth, and she is attempting to win the race for the 5th year in a row which would be incredible. I honestly can't see her being beaten but again is odds on and not worth backing unless you're betting big money. If anything goes wrong and Quevega doesn't win then the winner will probably be Un Artiste or Swing Bowler, so those two could be worth backing eachway.

The last is another really tricky handicap with 20 runners, so again 4 places for eachway bets, and I like two horses here. The Druids Nephew and Carlito Brigante both around 8-1 eachway.

Good luck anyone who's having a punt.
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:30 pm

Fecking racing.Countdown not on for a week because of that.Why don't they shove that tw@t Edmonds off air instead? Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:22 pm

Racing goes ahead despite the overnight freeze cheers feck countdown, old fogies show, except the dolly bird who is extremely shaggable.

The first race now starts at 2.05 though to give them longer to keep the track covered, with all the racing running 35 minutes later than scheduled and the cross-country race only goes ahead if the course is ok at the next inspection. If it goes ahead it will be run at 5.45 now
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:14 pm

Great first race. Champagne Fever the second favourite beats the favourite, My Tent Or Yours.

Champagne Fever led all the way but McCoy was so confident on MTOY he was sat motionless on the favourite cruising and I'm sure he was smiling, but Ruby Walsh wouldn't give up on Champagne Fever and won in a close finish with Jezki third, so the first three in the betting fill the places.

Thanks to Bet 365 I get my money back on MTOY so no losses for me, and I have backed Ruby Walsh to be top jockey @ 4-1 so not too bad.
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:08 pm

Not going too well jock? Just had a quick peep at the results so far.
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:58 pm

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Not going too well jock? Just had a quick peep at the results so far.

Nothing amazing so far Sad

I've got Simonsig, Quevega and Sprinter Sacre in a treble which is 2 out of 2 so far, need Sprinter Sacre to win tomorrow for a nice £125, and Ruby Walsh for top jockey and he won 3 races today. Barry Geraghty is the main rival and he only had one.

I got my money back from Bet 365 for opening an account with them and my money back on Zarkander from Paddy Power because Hurrican Fly won so not too bad. I do love watching the races as well and there were some cracking races today.

I'll have a look at tomorrows racing later, but I've already backed Sprinter Sacre in the Queen Mother and Sgt Reckless in the Bumper.

My mate backed Ackertac at 66-1 in the last race which just got beat in a photo finish. He still won because he backed it eachway but it would've been a cracking win.

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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:07 pm

1st race tomorrow is a 4 mile slog for amateur riders and with the ground set to be very soft, this really will be a huge test of stamina for the horses and the inexperienced or part-time jockeys.

The top rated horse is Back In Focus trained by Willie Mullins, who had 3 winners today, and is ridden by his son Patrick Mullins. PW Mullins unlike almost all of the other jockeys in the race is a professional in all but name. He rides regularly for his father and has rode 70 winners in the last year out of 211 rides. That's a brilliant strike rate for any jockey, but for an amateur is amazing.

It is the favourite at around 4-1, but the best horse, trained by the best trainer, with the best jockey? Can't see any reason why this won't win. The are only really 4 or 5 that have much of a chance in the race in my opinion so I will be backing Back In Focus to win and putting it in a combination forecast with Buddy Bolero and Hawkes Point.

The second race is a novice hurdle which has some really good young horses in it. The hot favourite is Pont Alexandre for Willie Mullins again and ridden by Ruby Walsh, who had a treble today. At 7-4 it could be something special but I prefer The New One at 5-1 who has won twice at Cheltenham on soft ground and I just think the experience of running up the steep hill finish might be crucial. There are a couple of other possibly top class horses running as well so a cracking race is on the cards.

The RSA Chase looks to be a really strong one this year, it's the Gold Cup for novice chasers really, with 4 horses standing out way above the others.

The favourite is another Willie Mullins horse Boston Bob at around 7-2, with Unioniste, Hadrians Approach and Goulanes next in the betting. All four could well win but Ruby Walsh has chosen not to ride the favourite and is instead on the Paul Nicholls horse Unioniste, that has to tell you he thinks it will beat Boston Bob.

Unioniste has already won at Cheltenham, and has beaten Hadrians Approach before as well as thrashing Golden Chieftan last time and Golden Chieftan won at Cheltenham today.

I'm backing Unioniste to win at 4-1 currently, a fair size bet, and another combination forecast with Goulanes and Hadrians Approach.

The Queen Mother Champion Chase next which has the superstar of NH racing at the moment, Sprinter Sacre the hottest favourite ever for this race. It's going to be around 1-3 or 1-4 favourite and it can't lose, honestly this could be the best jumper ever!

As I said the other day Coral are STILL offering Evens on Sprinter Sacre, maximum of £20 bet, and if you open a new account with them you get a £20 free bet! Get on before they stop the offer.

It is unbeaten in 7 chase races, winning by a combined total of 95 lengths! It strides along so quickly and jumps like a stag without breaking stride. It's won twice at Cheltenham already and it is so good that Sizing Europe who won this race in 2010 and 2011, also 2nd last year, is 7-1 second favourite. Next horse in the betting is 20-1.

The 4.00 is a 28 runner handicap! Best of luck with that but I won't be betting unless I've won a fortune already Very Happy

Joint favourite is another Willie Mullins/Ruby Walsh horse Abbey Lane at 8-1. Says a lot when the favourite is 8-1, a very difficult race to pick with the other joint favourite Pendra for AP McCoy also looking promising.

If Wille Mullins has had another couple of winners it maybe worth backing Abbey Lane, take the price though, and most bookies will give you 5 or even 6 places if you shop around.

The 4.40 is another nightmare to find the winner. 24 runner handicap for novices! So not only are there loads of runners but they are young improving horses as well.

Willie Mullins has 3 runners in this, but again Ruby Walsh has chosen to ride a Paul Nicholls horse, Saphir Du Rheu, which is 7-1 favourite.

Again I might leave this alone unless I'm already winning, and I can't make my mind up yet between the favourite, Bordoni, Counsel and Totalize.

Finally the Champion bumper race, a flat race for NH horses. Some of the best hurdlers have won this race and this year it looks like a particularly strong race.

There are several trainers who do really well with bumper horses like Willie Mullins(37% strike rate this year) with 3 runners, John Ferguson(32% in the last 3 years) 1 runner, David Pipe(38% this year) 3 runners Anthony Honeyball(£73 profit if you put £1 on every nh flat he has had a runner in) 1 runner.

There are also 2 great flat trainers with a runner in the race, Aiden O'Brien with Shield owned by his wife and ridden by his son, and Mick Channon who has Sgt Reckless with Richard Hughes on board. I watched an interview last week with Mick Channon who was saying Sgt. Reckless would win, very, very confident to say the least. So much so I've already had a £10 eachway bet on this at 12-1 with 4 places.

So I was going to leave it at that until I got a text from my mate who lives in Ireland earlier, and he has given me some great tips in the past including another runner in this race, Dr. Harper, who I also gave to Pilgrim Pete a couple of months ago Very Happy

I expected it to be a text telling me how he had backed all 3 Ruby Walsh/ Willie Mullins horses, which he did, but he said the best bet tomorrow is Le Vent D'Antan which is trained in Ireland but not by the big stables like Mullins, Dessie Hughes or Tony Martin, but it's trained by Miss E Doyle?

Never heard of her but after looking at her more closely she is usually a bloodstock agent who bought two previous winners of this race, Al Ferof and Cheltenian, and sold them for big money after they won point to point races.

My mate says that JP McManus has offered her £500,000 for the horse after it won it's first and only race easily, and she has turned it down! Apparently they have backed it all winter for the race and it is now favouite at 7-1. He did say that there maybe a deal where she keeps it for tomorrow and then it goes to McManus for when it goes jumping.

So I now don't know. I have backed Sgt. Reckless, now 8-1,have been given a tip for the favourite, currently 7-1,I have a feeling John Ferguson's horse Purple Bay could be massive value, currently around 28-1, know that Pipe and Mullins with 6 runners are specialsts at these races and Mullins horses are really red hot, and Regal Encore, currently 9-1 for McCoy and A. Honeyball, was bought by JP McManus for silly money after it won it's first race scratch

There are a couple of others like Golantilla and Fascino Rustico which have been bought for huge amounts of money, so all in all it really is a worse race to work out than the earlier handicaps.

One strange thing is that of the 3 Willie Mullins runners, Union Dues 8-1, Sizing Tennesee 16-1 and Briar Hill 28-1, Ruby Walsh rides the 28-1 shot and PW Mullins rides Union Dues. Nightmare!

Bit of a cop out I suppose me mentioning so many, but it really is that difficult again.

I'll stick my neck out and say the winner will come from Sgt. Reckless, Union Dues, Le Vent D'antan and Regal Encore, with preference going for my original bet Sgt. Reckless.

Good luck again.

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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:22 pm

For tomorrow I've backed -

1.30 Rose Of The Moon 1pt 18-1

2.05 Taquin Du Seuil 2pts 8-1 Ante/Post

2.40 Unioniste 1pt 12-1 Ante/Post.

4.00 Un Beau Matin 1pt at 20-1 .

4.00 Abbey Lane 1pt at 9-1

4.40 Bordoni 1pt at 11-1

4.40 Flaxen Flare 1pt at 25-1.

5.15 Shield 1pt at 16-1

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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:36 pm

Mike Searle wrote:
For tomorrow I've backed -

1.30 Rose Of The Moon 1pt 18-1

2.05 Taquin Du Seuil 2pts 8-1 Ante/Post

2.40 Unioniste 1pt 12-1 Ante/Post.

4.00 Un Beau Matin 1pt at 20-1 .

4.00 Abbey Lane 1pt at 9-1

4.40 Bordoni 1pt at 11-1

4.40 Flaxen Flare 1pt at 25-1.

5.15 Shield 1pt at 16-1


I like your 12-1 on Unioniste, I've just got 7-2 BOG with Paddy Power! affraid

I think tomorrows racing is bleddy difficult other than Sprinter Sacre. Much harder than today for instance.
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:17 am

zara philips who are ya !!!! drunken
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:36 pm

ive done buddy boles 1.30
taquen de seuil 2.05
goulanes 2.40
sprinter sacre 3.20 in a stupid E/W acc

and put a whole £10 on jocks tip of SGT RECKLESS,bound to lose now bounce

the girlie has put her pound on UNIONISTE 2.40

lets hope someone on here can win loads.good luck
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:39 pm

well done jock on the first one!!!! jammy cnut cheers
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PostSubject: Re: cheltenham horses   Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:40 pm

Just the 19 lengths win for Sprinter Sacre ! Laughing
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