Liquidation is the answer

No more Superfans, Forza Nerd, Fan fests, noul or ghoul...the club is a total basket case.

Liquidate and start again ...rid the club of the corrupt vermin once and for all, might take a few years to get back but it needs to be done

A bit of me does agree. Just start all over again, A clean slate could do Argyle the world of good.

Is the question "What would be the most useful thing to do with Tony Hooper's, Lee Jameson's and Ian Newells bollocks"?

Forgive me if Im coming across as a bit nieve or have been wooshed by a bit of tounge-in-cheekery here but if you were liquidated, wouldnt the "Superfan" influence potential which stokes up so much ire actually be greatly increased?

You may rid yourself of Brent but the war veterans, REAL fans etc; they surely wouldn't walk away from the chance to be the Pilgrim Fathers of a Resurgum Argyle, wiping their hands saying "well we tried once and failed, so someone else can have a go at resurrecting us now?"

Rise wrote:

Forgive me if Im coming across as a bit nieve or have been wooshed by a bit of tounge-in-cheekery here but if you were liquidated, wouldnt the "Superfan" influence potential which stokes up so much ire actually be greatly increased?

You may rid yourself of Brent but the war veterans, REAL fans etc; they surely wouldn't walk away from the chance to be the Pilgrim Fathers of a Resurgum Argyle, wiping their hands saying "well we tried once and failed, so someone else can have a go at resurrecting us now?"

Invariably the scabs who were part of this current downfall and debacle will be involved in some way shape or form in the new regime, this website needs to ensure that is not the case.
Liquidation WHEN it happens should include a clean sweep, believe me when we come back after liquidation will be far far better then the utter shit we have to witness week in week out..it will be worth waiting for, even if it takes a while

regrettably the 'super fan' would come racing to the fore in any liquidation.

this is how it would pan out....................

PAFC naturally cease to exist.

Home Park would be demolished as it would be surplus to requirements - thats where the land comes in see! The new club couldnt afford to run it - dont forget you wont be able to charge £20 to watch phoenix v chard town and expect a good gate.

The new phoenix club would be created....but where would it start? lowest divsion available or buy a local club ie plymouth parkway or united? not the best of 'new starts' as not a genuine 'new club'

The CPers would re-emerge & run the new side but would need money to ensure winning whatever league they were in the first few years so Nikkis cheque book would be very busy indeed.

The New club would cause major problems regarding away fans can you imagine approx 500 turning up at places like Dartmouth etc in the early years. Dont forget they will ALL be local games so 500 to be expected minimum.
As the club rises the harder it will be to win the promotion race - a bad start would lead to anxiety & the higher the club went in the pyramid the more 'cash' concerns would be raised.
Also boredom of winning would creep in & after initial high gates these would slip.

Over course of 5 years a new 15k all seater would be built out of town.

It would take 12years to get back to the 4th tier of League football.

It would be 'the super fans' what won it ! they will be all over the tv for the 1st round proper v orient

Lord Aviva wrote:

regrettably the 'super fan' would come racing to the fore in any liquidation.

this is how it would pan out....................

PAFC naturally cease to exist.

Home Park would be demolished as it would be surplus to requirements - thats where the land comes in see! The new club couldnt afford to run it - dont forget you wont be able to charge £20 to watch phoenix v chard town and expect a good gate.

The new phoenix club would be created....but where would it start? lowest divsion available or buy a local club ie plymouth parkway or united? not the best of 'new starts' as not a genuine 'new club'

The CPers would re-emerge & run the new side but would need money to ensure winning whatever league they were in the first few years so Nikkis cheque book would be very busy indeed.

The New club would cause major problems regarding away fans can you imagine approx 500 turning up at places like Dartmouth etc in the early years. Dont forget they will ALL be local games so 500 to be expected minimum.
As the club rises the harder it will be to win the promotion race - a bad start would lead to anxiety & the higher the club went in the pyramid the more 'cash' concerns would be raised.
Also boredom of winning would creep in & after initial high gates these would slip.

Over course of 5 years a new 15k all seater would be built out of town.

It would take 12years to get back to the 4th tier of League football.

It would be 'the super fans' what won it ! they will be all over the tv for the 1st round proper v orient

So true. The only chance for the club to regain any credibility in my eyes is if a group like the erstwhile 'Consortium' were to relieve Brent of his responsibilities. Maybe he'd pay a few million to be rid of the club and be able to concentrate on his real business interests ?

The Supafans are the only fans who stand a chance at the moment under the banker.

At least if we reformed then everyone would be on a level footing and the likes of IJN, 2Face and Webb surely wouldn't get a sniff? Or if they did they would actually be accountable for their devious and sinister behaviour?

If we started again the Supafans would muscle in on it so the best hope is that Brent stumbles to his building foray as soon as and a new buyer comes forward who doesn't want any interfering ninnies walking his corridors. As many say on here, this club is a shambles!

Tringreen wrote:

Lord Aviva wrote:

regrettably the 'super fan' would come racing to the fore in any liquidation.

this is how it would pan out....................

PAFC naturally cease to exist.

Home Park would be demolished as it would be surplus to requirements - thats where the land comes in see! The new club couldnt afford to run it - dont forget you wont be able to charge £20 to watch phoenix v chard town and expect a good gate.

The new phoenix club would be created....but where would it start? lowest divsion available or buy a local club ie plymouth parkway or united? not the best of 'new starts' as not a genuine 'new club'

The CPers would re-emerge & run the new side but would need money to ensure winning whatever league they were in the first few years so Nikkis cheque book would be very busy indeed.

The New club would cause major problems regarding away fans can you imagine approx 500 turning up at places like Dartmouth etc in the early years. Dont forget they will ALL be local games so 500 to be expected minimum.
As the club rises the harder it will be to win the promotion race - a bad start would lead to anxiety & the higher the club went in the pyramid the more 'cash' concerns would be raised.
Also boredom of winning would creep in & after initial high gates these would slip.

Over course of 5 years a new 15k all seater would be built out of town.

It would take 12years to get back to the 4th tier of League football.

It would be 'the super fans' what won it ! they will be all over the tv for the 1st round proper v orient

So true. The only chance for the club to regain any credibility in my eyes is if a group like the erstwhile 'Consortium' were to relieve Brent of his responsibilities. Maybe he'd pay a few million to be rid of the club and be able to concentrate on his real business interests ?

That's my take on it. A takeover by a proper investor is what is needed to cleanse the club of brent and the assorted hangers on. I don't care what the self interested hangers on and brent lovers say, there IS potential at the club and the ultra damaging brent is not the only option!

BRENT OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Heggsackly !

Punchy has it totally arse to face, liquidation would leave the way open for anyone with the time, money, energy and commitment to take over from Harry Potter, nowt to be said for sitting at home keyboard bitching, you would have to organise, form alliances, get funding and then really put in the hard yards.

No offence lads but I think the Pork and his band of sycophants would have you for breakfast, imagine the Muriel with El Porko stood fist raised with his boot planted heavily upon the carcasses of Tring, Rickler and Jock.

Not that it makes any difference, we'll probably end up in that position anyway.

Freathy wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Lord Aviva wrote:

regrettably the 'super fan' would come racing to the fore in any liquidation.

this is how it would pan out....................

PAFC naturally cease to exist.

Home Park would be demolished as it would be surplus to requirements - thats where the land comes in see! The new club couldnt afford to run it - dont forget you wont be able to charge £20 to watch phoenix v chard town and expect a good gate.

The new phoenix club would be created....but where would it start? lowest divsion available or buy a local club ie plymouth parkway or united? not the best of 'new starts' as not a genuine 'new club'

The CPers would re-emerge & run the new side but would need money to ensure winning whatever league they were in the first few years so Nikkis cheque book would be very busy indeed.

The New club would cause major problems regarding away fans can you imagine approx 500 turning up at places like Dartmouth etc in the early years. Dont forget they will ALL be local games so 500 to be expected minimum.
As the club rises the harder it will be to win the promotion race - a bad start would lead to anxiety & the higher the club went in the pyramid the more 'cash' concerns would be raised.
Also boredom of winning would creep in & after initial high gates these would slip.

Over course of 5 years a new 15k all seater would be built out of town.

It would take 12years to get back to the 4th tier of League football.

It would be 'the super fans' what won it ! they will be all over the tv for the 1st round proper v orient

So true. The only chance for the club to regain any credibility in my eyes is if a group like the erstwhile 'Consortium' were to relieve Brent of his responsibilities. Maybe he'd pay a few million to be rid of the club and be able to concentrate on his real business interests ?

That's my take on it. A takeover by a proper investor is what is needed to cleanse the club of brent and the assorted hangers on. I don't care what the self interested hangers on and brent lovers say, there IS potential at the club and the ultra damaging brent is not the only option!

BRENT OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would anybody in their right mind want to buy in to a loss-making business with no assets and huge debts? My advice is get used to Brent because we're stuck with him now.

Freathy wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Lord Aviva wrote:

regrettably the 'super fan' would come racing to the fore in any liquidation.

this is how it would pan out....................

PAFC naturally cease to exist.

Home Park would be demolished as it would be surplus to requirements - thats where the land comes in see! The new club couldnt afford to run it - dont forget you wont be able to charge £20 to watch phoenix v chard town and expect a good gate.

The new phoenix club would be created....but where would it start? lowest divsion available or buy a local club ie plymouth parkway or united? not the best of 'new starts' as not a genuine 'new club'

The CPers would re-emerge & run the new side but would need money to ensure winning whatever league they were in the first few years so Nikkis cheque book would be very busy indeed.

The New club would cause major problems regarding away fans can you imagine approx 500 turning up at places like Dartmouth etc in the early years. Dont forget they will ALL be local games so 500 to be expected minimum.
As the club rises the harder it will be to win the promotion race - a bad start would lead to anxiety & the higher the club went in the pyramid the more 'cash' concerns would be raised.
Also boredom of winning would creep in & after initial high gates these would slip.

Over course of 5 years a new 15k all seater would be built out of town.

It would take 12years to get back to the 4th tier of League football.

It would be 'the super fans' what won it ! they will be all over the tv for the 1st round proper v orient

So true. The only chance for the club to regain any credibility in my eyes is if a group like the erstwhile 'Consortium' were to relieve Brent of his responsibilities. Maybe he'd pay a few million to be rid of the club and be able to concentrate on his real business interests ?

That's my take on it. A takeover by a proper investor is what is needed to cleanse the club of brent and the assorted hangers on. I don't care what the self interested hangers on and brent lovers say, there IS potential at the club and the ultra damaging brent is not the only option!

BRENT OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry Freathy there will be no 'proper investors' at HP - what would they be investing in? The stadium is gone and the land is gone - all that is left is a football club. Investors have no interest in a football club because there is no return. When the club is losing money we expect our owner to prop us up - when the club is making money we expect every penny of profit to be re-invested in the team.

A 'sugar daddy' would be good, but with a sugar daddy comes hangers-on.

A fans trust owned and run real community club would be good too - but unfortunately I would see us never again climbing back to Championship football.

The worst thing is having this confused ownership - a multi millionaire owner who will have taken the profit out of the land assets and then from next season refuse to bail out the club any longer. An owner who claims we are a 'community club' when it suits - getting the GTs to pay for the youth team Milk Cup trip and Ladies team trip to Newcastle - and yet wants to charge the fans Trust £400,000 for 20% of a loss making club with no assets.

Anyway I had a lovely day out. Met up with old school friends from 30 years ago, had a few drinks and watched Argyle win. Not having read the thread surely everyone's happy...?

Ooops wrong thread. Apologies on phone but still had a lovely day. Argyle won..!!!!! Everyone must be so happy this evening.

Very happy, so happy I am celebrating with a nice cup of tea.

Damon.Lenszner wrote:

Sorry Freathy there will be no 'proper investors' at HP - what would they be investing in? The stadium is gone and the land is gone - all that is left is a football club. Investors have no interest in a football club because there is no return. When the club is losing money we expect our owner to prop us up - when the club is making money we expect every penny of profit to be re-invested in the team.

Are there any current plans for Harpers Park (or any number of nearby fields for that matter)? Once the current crop of developments are finished I don't see PCC saying 'job done'. They'll move on to the next opportunity and find a new carrot to offer which could even eventually lead to relocating the club. The stadium can be bought for 12 x annual rent (the design of the new grandstand might be interesting), plenty of grounds for manoeuvring from where I'm sat. The club could be used and abused for years to come or might just strike it lucky ala Reading FC, history would suggest the former unfortunately.

Or I could just be talking bollox

punchdrunk wrote:

No more Superfans, Forza Nerd, Fan fests, noul or ghoul...the club is a total basket case.

Liquidate and start again ...rid the club of the corrupt vermin once and for all, might take a few years to get back but it needs to be done

Are you mad Punchers ?

I reckon Lord Tis has called this right.

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

Very happy, so happy I am celebrating with a nice cup of tea.

You could of got something stronger down at... The Buff... than a cup of tea mouldy.....you certainly know how to live it up....obviously under the thumb of your GSG other half these days......was that with milk and two sugars....wow.