As an elected PASB member has raised an issue against this site with MP's, James Brent and the local media I feel we have a right to ask questions of that PASB member (as James Brent said that the PASB represents ALL Argyle fans). Please feel free to add questions which we can either send to the first PASB meeting or a representative from the PASB can answer if they so wish. I have archived a copy of Tony Hooper's Pasoti post if it is needed for future reference.

Question 1- Is it correct for one of the elected members of the PASB to hold their position after they have alledgedly* investigated an Argyle fan which has lead to threats of violence against the investigated Argyle fan and his family?

*This claim was made by Chris Webb (Argyle club president) and Ian Newell (Represents Argyle in home and away Directors' Boxes) against Tony Hooper


Question 2- Is it correct for one of the elected members of the PASB to hold a grudge against an Argyle fans' website and carry out a campaign against said website involving the local media, MP's and James Brent? If this person has a personal crusade why hasn't he taken action against another Argyle fan's site that has jokes of a homosexual and national stereotyping nature and displays a twitterfeed that displays tweets of a sexual nature and has links topornographic websites?

Question 3- What do the other members of the PASB feel about the actions of Tony Hooper today. Especially aimed at Jon B who is a respected poster of ATD.

Question 4 what does the unelected president think about todays actions?

Question 5- The Argyle fanfest entertainment has included Jimmy Savile jokes from Rick O'Shay and Gordan Sparks. Will the PASB be taking action against the Green Taverners and Argyle, in the same manner as its elected member has against www.argyletd.com ?

Question 6 - Do you consider that you have a conflict of interest representing Argyle fans on the PASB and your anti stance towards ATD, a Plymouth Argyle FC fans website forum?

Question 7 - Considering your position on the PASB, a board created for the representation of Argyle fans, that you have undermined the PASB with your recent written attack on ATD, a website forum used by Argyle fans?

Question 8. Are the views of Mr Hooper representative of the entire PASB? (Including those not yet identified from the remaining supporters groups?)

Question 9. Is Mr Hooper the Chairperson of the PASB? If, as appears so, he is, how was that decided? I can only assume it was a vote between the PASB members. What was the number of votes for Mr Hooper from the remaining PASB members?

Question 10 - What is everone's favourite Matt Bianco track?

.....sorry...

Question 11: Will The Snooper be attending the City v Argyle match in an official capacity.? We are lookiing forward to welcoming Newell (flickr is our friend) and will also be happy to welcome Frank Cannon in our own very friendly way.

Firstly, I must say that I only know what I know & there may be an entirely plausible rationale behind the original post that I'm ignorant to. It wouldn't be a first.

As such, I would prefer to keep my comments to what has been written, rather than the individual concerned.

So, in answer to the question asked of me above, on the whole my feelings are ones of sadness & exasperation.

Although I don't agree with absolutely every word he writes (although in honesty, I'm around the 99% mark), the ever-articulate John Lloyd captures most of my thoughts in his post on Pasoti.

As JL writes, the original post is illogical at best. It achieves what it claims to abhor. I don't wish to speculate on what it is at worst.

However, there is something of a Curate's Egg to be found in today's wretched saga. It has found something of a unity between ATD & Pasoti users; between diverse Argyle fans. It's reminded us that good people use both sites. And that is pretty remarkable. A good thing.

It has also helped me with some of my thoughts about how to take the PASB forward (as one of the PASB team). I have posted a number of times about how I could see the PASB progress. Included within one of these posts was the proposal that Board members should be subject to a code of conduct, maybe even performance-managed (eg if we don't make any meetings without good cause, we should be kicked off).

I think that at the end of the code of conduct continuum needs to be the authority to remove a Board member, given certain circumstances. It may be that these circumstances would include bringing the club into disrepute.

So, food for thought, this Curate's Egg.

Believe it or not Jon, not so long ago we all posted on pasoti, ATD didn't exist, we all had differences but we all got along.

Funny old world aint it.

Gob,

As someone who used to sniff nervously around the edges of ROTG, I'm acutely aware of this - hence my use of the phrase 'it's reminded us' rather than 'it's shown us'.

The fallout from our footballing club's catastrophic descent has had a wider, more negative impact upon us as fans than I ever thought possible.

* edited to add - the opening sentence didn't sound quite so seedy when I first wrote it *

Hi Jon,

The Trust Board members are subject to rules of conduct, see here:
http://www.argylefanstrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/AFT-Model-Board-Membership-and-Conduct-Policy.pdf.

All Board members sign these when they take up their position, and may be subject to the disciplinary policy if they break the rules. There are other rules governing board meetings, AGMs and elections. And all Board meetings are minuted, and posted to the Trust web site. It's all part of being transparent and accountable.

It's not clear whether Tony's crusade is an individual one or wearing his new PASB hat.

Tim

As always, thank you Tim.

With the amount of material I'm plagiarising I might well be subject to a copyright action soon!

In seriousness, this is useful & I'll go through it in detail tonight.

As for your last paragraph, goodness only knows. What I do know is that given the turbulent journey of the PASB so far, today couldn't have been less helpful, even if it set out to be.

Jon,

If you have a lot of time to spare then all the Trust's rules are here:

http://www.argylefanstrust.com/mission/trust-rules

The main Rules are those lodged with the FSA. The accompanying policy texts are 'optional' but we chose to adopt them, and personally I think they're very useful.

Tim

Hi all,

I hope it doesn't come over as too pretentious, but I've set up a new personal email account for contact regarding Supporter's Board purposes, pending any future, more corporate communication routes.

It's JonB.PASB@gmail.com .

The only other thing I'd mention is that currently, I'm usually accessing my IT via the mobile network, so it can be a touch unreliable.

Cheers.

Just to add, if any PASB members are reading this, drop me an email & I'll collate contact details.

It would be good to touch base to check where we are & what we need to do.

* Edited to add that for clarity, I don't want to be seen to be inappropriately prompting decisions on the future of the Board before all members are identified; my objective at this time is to simply facilitate contact *

No apology for me thanks, that guy simple isn't up to the job of representing anyone other than himself.

Mr Hooper has stated on many occasions that if he had a problem concerning Argyle he would go straight to the management and didn't want/need to be part of a group like the AFT to express his views. Why did he suddenly decide to make such a huge effort to be part of the GasBoard?

At the other end of the spectrum is Damon, who has always acted with dignity, refuses to get involved in petty squabbles which can only divide an already small fanbase, and has experience of running a football club. Why didn't he stand for election?