GT's do a good job raising money for the staff fund. We should support them on here not slate them.

I support two charities (and I know, technically, the Green Taverners aren't a charity). I don't look at the causes I support and say it should be down to government or parents or whatever to do the job themselves - though, of course they should - and walk away myself. I see two causes that I choose to support and get on with it because if I don't then there will be suffering people who will receive less help.

I think that the Green Taverners fall into that category - they are speeding up the payments to staff at Argyle who went without during the admin period. Morally that doesn't get the millionaire owner of the club off the hook but it recognises that if someone doesn't offer assistance then the people stuck in the middle actually are receiving help. The Green Taverners isn't one of my 'charities'. I have no axe to grind against anyone who contributes to them or against anyone who doesn't.

Perhaps damon will be prepared to answer these questions i believe he is involved?

There are plenty of culprits associated with our club well worthy of slating but I just feel the gt's aren't one of them if thats ok. They are helping our staff when those that could have, should have but didn't or want to, why try to find fault when they themselves don't even want or are looking for as much as a parking space.

I have no problem with the GT's. What they have done for the staff is just brilliant. I also have no problem with things like the fan fests. If people who wish to go to things like that for a pasty and a pint before a match, for the benefit of the staff then fine.

Who's got the hump Charlie? I actually agree with that and perhaps I should have elaberated a bit more in my post instead of just saying A of M was right. They deserve to be supported as opposed to "we should" would have been better and I would have agreed with that part also regardless as that is the way I see it.

That wasn't aimed at you mate, it was a generality.

I was merely trying to make the point that my 'monotonous phrases' have the desired effect and take a lot less effort.

I've tried suggesting, explaining and cajoling with these people but the nature of the self promoting, intellectually challenged control freaks currently infesting our club, is such that long winded missives, no matter how factually correct, are just water off an Aviva's back .

I was only talking elected, how Lee has the brass neck to accept a position is beyond me, but indicative of how the politicos amongst us can put the inconvenient behind them and move on. They are all adept at that, whatever the colour of their views.