Local Heroes

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THREE life-size metal cutouts of local heroes will appear around a bench to celebrate the city's history and culture.

City residents can vote on which of the heroes they would like to see depicted on the new piece of art being installed in North Cross.

Naturally and quite rightly, I shall be voting for myself as a local hero. Last week I found someone's driving licence and took it to the police station and handed it in - I'm a great citizen and for that act of decency, I deserve a metal cut-out. Who would be the other two though?

The two people with a good enough memory to remember back to back league wins at home.

They're quite elderly now though so the models better bemade quickly if they want living legends.

One or two of them are tenuous to say the least.

Pocohontas, because she stopped off here?

William Miller, because he happened to be black?



I vote Brent Webb and Newell.

Newell, Saracen10 and Sting Curtain. Saves wasting too much metal.

Choose three local heroes to stand around a Plymouth bench.

Choose three local heroes to stand around a Plymouth bench.

Choose three local heroes to stand around a Plymouth bench.



Is this serious?

Serious?

seriuz?

Seriously, what a terrible list!

If we're going to have Pocahontas, then we ought to be able to vote for Napolean too fcol.

Half of them only merely sailed from Plymouth (Darwin?! Shropshire bhey!). Half of their exploints were almost solely elsewhere (founded an academy in Landan ffs?!). One of them is bloody Dawn French! We've plumped for Creepy Tom following his bronze (I'm not talking his fake tan) but not the chap who actually won a Gold!

Drake, Raleigh, Scott. At a push, Sharron Davies for a bit of frock.

POCAHONTAS?! seriously?!?!?!

I had to look up the Plymouth connection to sir Arthur Conan Doyle and he briefly set up home there with a fellow doctor, but they fell out straight away and Conan Doyle fecked off to Portsmouth.

I'd that makes you a local hero then I deserve a fuckin postbox for all the time I've spent there. Speaking of which, young Tom Daley doesn't seem like a popular choice either if you look at the readers comments.

Mock Cuncher wrote:

Seriously, what a terrible list!

If we're going to have Pocahontas, then we ought to be able to vote for Napolean too fcol.

Half of them only merely sailed from Plymouth (Darwin?! Shropshire bhey!). Half of their exploints were almost solely elsewhere (founded an academy in Landan ffs?!). One of them is bloody Dawn French! We've plumped for Creepy Tom following his bronze (I'm not talking his fake tan) but not the chap who actually won a Gold!

Drake, Raleigh, Scott. At a push, Sharron Davies for a bit of frock.

Actually, Pocahontas is buried in Plymouth, as is James Bond 007 although that one's a little debatable. Old Mother Hubbard is also local.

Darren Purse, please. Not local or a hero but I don't think that matters.

The First two not Plymouth born

Lawrence of Arabia station at Mount Batten,
his girl friend (Local press at the time)
Lady Astor MP first Women to take her seat in the Commons

What about this list from our history these was born in our City Boundary

Guy Burgess Devonport
Alfred Wallis Devonport
Beryl Cook Plymouth
John Hawkins Plymouth
Michael Foot Plymouth
R.S. Hawker Devonport
Robert Falcon Scott (Stoke Damerel, near Devonport)
Samuel Phelps Devonport
Sir Joshua Reynolds Plympton
William Bligh Plymouth

By the way I was born in Devonport

Robert Falcon Scott - Stoke, Plymouth.

GOB wrote:

Robert Falcon Scott - Stoke, Plymouth.

I can understand honouring Scott, but if I wanted to see a fat woman on a bench I just look at my mum at the bus stop.

Beryl Cook and Dawn French FFS?

Have to say I'm really pleased Alfred Wallis is in that list. He was born a stone's throw from my gaff, but ended up living in St Ives and working on the fishing boats. When his much loved wife died - he was already pretty old by then - he took up painting to fill the empty days. This was at the time when all the artists were congregating in St Ives - Barbara Hepworth and the like - and Wallis was 'discovered' by a couple of them. He hardly made a penny from his painting during his life, but some of his ideas were 'borrowed' by people who made a lot of money from them ... And then, after he'd died in poverty and squalor, those same individuals fought to get their hands on his work, which still sells for a lot of money.

That's the short version - he was very difficult to get on with, so people who wanted to help him were often refused - but it's a bit of a crusade of mine to get him better recognised in Plymouth (when I found out he was born in Devonport, I had a chat with the local librarian about the possibility of having an exhibition).

Wallis' paintings are very 'naive'. Most of them are about boats and the sea, but he did a few of Saltash, like this one:



And that concludes today's art history lesson

Did he have a drink problem Peggy?

GOB wrote:

Robert Falcon Scott - Stoke, Plymouth.

Robert Falcon Scott (Stoke Damerel, near Devonport)

Peggy

Fisherman, scrap merchant and ice-cream vendor before beginning to paint at the age of 70. Paintings were drawn from his experiences at the sea. Discovered by the St Ives group, taken to a Penzance workhouse and continued to paint until he died. Work found in major collections in Britain and USA.

Where about in Devonport was he born?
My son is a art teacher I had to put him in.

john chard not even mentioned i find that shocking.

Greenjock wrote:

I had to look up the Plymouth connection to sir Arthur Conan Doyle and he briefly set up home there with a fellow doctor, but they fell out straight away and Conan Doyle fecked off to Portsmouth.

I'd that makes you a local hero then I deserve a fuckin postbox for all the time I've spent there. Speaking of which, young Tom Daley doesn't seem like a popular choice either if you look at the readers comments.

G

The whole problem though Jock is not that Daley isn't a good athlete, role model or successful in his field, it's the fact that people are being hailed as legends when they are teenagers! When Daley is in his late twenties has a score of medals and is retiring from sport then surely that is the time to be honouring him, not when he is starting his career. I am sure that half his problem in the Olympics was that all the smoke being blown up his arse got in his eyes and took his eyes off the prize.
There is never going to be enough bronze in these days of austerity to cast a statue of Dawn French, and anyway she couldn't,t wait to get out of Plymouth.

Gob - that's what they mean by 'naive'!

T&G (comrade): he was born at North Corner - down by Cornwall Beach.

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

john chard not even mentioned i find that shocking.

How I missed him out?

MY Great great grandfather was his father gardener. lived In King Tamerton come down with the family from Chard in Somerset,

GOB wrote:

Mock Cuncher wrote:

Seriously, what a terrible list!

If we're going to have Pocahontas, then we ought to be able to vote for Napolean too fcol.

Half of them only merely sailed from Plymouth (Darwin?! Shropshire bhey!). Half of their exploints were almost solely elsewhere (founded an academy in Landan ffs?!). One of them is bloody Dawn French! We've plumped for Creepy Tom following his bronze (I'm not talking his fake tan) but not the chap who actually won a Gold!

Drake, Raleigh, Scott. At a push, Sharron Davies for a bit of frock.

Actually, Pocahontas is buried in Plymouth, as is James Bond 007 although that one's a little debatable. Old Mother Hubbard is also local.

Shergar was buried under smeatons tower along with lord lucan and the guitarist from manic street preachers one of them deserves a bench.

[quote="Peggy"]Gob - that's what they mean by 'naive'!

T&G (comrade): he was born at North Corner - down by Cornwall Beach.[/quote


I was also born in north corner, I have family still there now, I will not mention their names has they are well known and people will work out who I am (He doe's a lot for his local community)

I'm starting a campaign for the 'heroes' who attended all of these 3 games from Argyle's season thus far.

Bristol Rovers - home
Morecombe - away
Aldershot - home JPT Trophy

These are surely 'superfans' and there identities should be made known not least so no one else can claim they were there when we get to Wembley or the Premier League

Tgwu wrote:

The First two not Plymouth born

Lawrence of Arabia station at Mount Batten,
his girl friend (Local press at the time)
Lady Astor MP first Women to take her seat in the Commons

What about this list from our history these was born in our City Boundary

Guy Burgess Devonport
Alfred Wallis Devonport
Beryl Cook Plymouth
John Hawkins Plymouth
Michael Foot Plymouth
R.S. Hawker Devonport
Robert Falcon Scott (Stoke Damerel, near Devonport)
Samuel Phelps Devonport
Sir Joshua Reynolds Plympton
William Bligh Plymouth

By the way I was born in Devonport

Would that be Soviet spy Guy Burgess???