Trust Board calls for PASB election to be aborted

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In fact, better still, vote for a load of pollocks.

Still no statement from anyone at the club or El Presidente?

Maybe they will ditch the whole idea and get behind The Trust?

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Still nothing in the local press. I believe the Trust sent them their statement.

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I'm sure the Trust leaders must be able to contact senior figures at the club, either by email or phone. Surely this has been done and a response forthcoming?

Posts: 346 Join date: 2012-01-06

The Trust has not had a response as yet to either our email or phone requests for a meeting to discuss the problems.

The Trust board met on Saturday and agreed that we will write directly to JB on Monday with some constructive proposals to move forward.

It seems the Trust's concerns over the election are shared not only by many of our members including three previous Trust chairmen, but also by other supporter groups who are to be represented on the PASB, with David Fisher and Lee Jameson adding their voices to those of Graham Clark, Jim Benton-Evans and Warren Bowden.

Tim

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Don't forget to tout my idea. All club members become Trust members (from next season trust membership fee included in price) with opt out available - call it the chowell clause. All supporters groups are affiliated to the Trust with opt out available - call it the Chowell clause. Seats on Trust board if needed but only by vote from their members.

In one fell swoop James Brent gets his broader representation, the Trust gets increased funds, it gets increased membership (easier to raise the 400k if that's the way to go), pay on the dayers,exiles and anyone just interested in Argyle represented rather than excluded, one voice one point of contact for the fans, no blurred lines, independent from the club, not dependent on clubs largesse to finance it, cant be wound up by whim of this or future owner and it's stop this stupid stand off dance of the GasBoard eventually merging with the Trust anyway.

All in the cause of being constructive Tony.

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Dougie wrote:

Don't forget to tout my idea. All club members become Trust members (from next season trust membership fee included in price) with opt out available.

For info, that's pretty much the Swansea model, which we put forward originally, but it wasn't taken up. That's how their Trust has a very large membership (around 15,000 iirc).

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And there was me thinking I was being original. Make sure you offer it as an alternative again because it makes total sense.

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So the club has had a week to respond or do something. Not a dicky bird? I guess there are more important things in the scheme of things like making the treatment room at Home Park bigger but it hardly bodes well if the club can't be open and honest with the largest democratically elected fans group and all other official outlets/inlets seemingly having nothing to say on the matter.

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Tim Chown wrote:

Dougie wrote:

Don't forget to tout my idea. All club members become Trust members (from next season trust membership fee included in price) with opt out available.

For info, that's pretty much the Swansea model, which we put forward originally, but it wasn't taken up. That's how their Trust has a very large membership (around 15,000 iirc).

And there is the nub of it.
Swansea was quoted as a club that had a fan involvment that they admired. But any old Tom Dick or Janner involved under a TRUST banner ? ... in Plymouth ?. heresy for these puppets, not on their watch if they can possibly help it ... one of them even famously 'doesn't do democracy'. 'Where was the fickle 19,990 plebiscite when the chips were down eh ?

They don't want THAT SORT of involvment, they want a token involvment 'voted' for by 10% to 20% of the reported and probably reasonably accurate Argyle diaspora .... that's the sort of controlled involvment they want, and a quarter of those will be a kids.... icing on the cake, that one ... who would have thought a Tory boy would agree to a kids' "card vote" straight out of the 1970s.

The the likes of Mr Webb and his mucker showed Brent the odd snippets from here, totally out of context, to try and convince the naive new football owner that any token involvment was best marshalled and controlled by them, should he want REAL involvment ... they know best.. they know who can be trusted to vote. There's thousands of internet trolls out there just waiting to ruin OUR club. And as for POTD fans, they should never have been let into Hone Park in the first place ... bleddy plastics.
And all this bad feeling just to elect a body to replace something that is already up and running and open to ALL, should one have the inclination..makes me wonder WHY an admitted 'tightwad' like the new owner would agree to spend the club's precious money on a duplication.

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Tim Chown wrote:

The Trust has not had a response as yet to either our email or phone requests for a meeting to discuss the problems.

The Trust board met on Saturday and agreed that we will write directly to JB on Monday with some constructive proposals to move forward.

It seems the Trust's concerns over the election are shared not only by many of our members including three previous Trust chairmen, but also by other supporter groups who are to be represented on the PASB, with David Fisher and Lee Jameson adding their voices to those of Graham Clark, Jim Benton-Evans and Warren Bowden.

Tim

get spotlight involved you will probably get a quick response from the club then. Also, put the letter in the new postboxes you can decide which one Smile

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The club, James Brent and The President are all taking the Brendan Guilfoyle line i.e. everything is hunky dory

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Dougie wrote:

The club, James Brent and The President are all taking the Brendan Guilfoyle line i.e. everything is hunky dory

Mine and the wife papers are in the bin where all this rubbish belongs

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If Tim Chown's looking in - have you still not heard back from anyone at the club?

Posts: 346 Join date: 2012-01-06

The good news is that a Trust board member met a club board member last night at the match, as a result of an offer to talk by the club.

As a result, we hope to put something to the club as a proposal later today. We won't say any more just yet until we have their reaction to that.

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Thanks for that update Tim.

However I think the club has dealt with this issue contemptuously and have drawn up the metaphorical drawbridge. No public utterance on the subject either directly or from their representatives on earth.

There are real concerns and with one candidate standing down real consequences. I think for the first time they have thought 'stuff it you ungrateful oiks' or words to that effect. If they refuse or can't engage on this level how are they going to engage with the Gasboard when it presses on more difficult and fraught issues.

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Would it now not be wise for the Trust to contact James Brent expressing that with consideration of the obvious failure of PASB, the Trust are happy to fulfill the role that PASB would have undertaken as a single entity?

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The silence from The Supreme Leader has been deafening. Every one of his Supreme Leader Bulletins on the Baggo has, for months, been about the establishment of the GASBoard (RIP). Now that it's all going to Hell in a handcart...nothing. Even the tumbleweed has given up and moved on.

I think you're right, Gob. Time for the Trust Board to seize the moment and re-establish itself as the body that fulfils the GASBoard (RIP) terms of reference. If the Trust can establish exactly what those terms are.

Andy_Symons wrote:

The silence from The Supreme Leader has been deafening. Every one of his Supreme Leader Bulletins on the Baggo has, for months, been about the establishment of the GASBoard (RIP). Now that it's all going to Hell in a handcart...nothing. Even the tumbleweed has given up and moved on.

I think you're right, Gob. Time for the Trust Board to seize the moment and re-establish itself as the body that fulfils the GASBoard (RIP) terms of reference. If the Trust can establish exactly what those terms are.

But what about Tony and his clipboard? He's personally endorsed by PL2 Faced and has his own updates on Vital and everyfink!

He's spend pounds on leaflets etc. who's going to re-imburse him for that £11?

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Andy_Symons wrote:

The silence from The Supreme Leader has been deafening. Every one of his Supreme Leader Bulletins on the Baggo has, for months, been about the establishment of the GASBoard (RIP). Now that it's all going to Hell in a handcart...nothing. Even the tumbleweed has given up and moved on.

Too True.

When the hour cometh.. The man didn't.

Now that the situation truely needs a leader. There is nobody at Argyle stepping up.

What is the plan now? Just carry on with the election as if there are no concerns, and then announce the winners in a few weeks?

That will go down well.

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Greenjock wrote:

Andy_Symons wrote:

The silence from The Supreme Leader has been deafening. Every one of his Supreme Leader Bulletins on the Baggo has, for months, been about the establishment of the GASBoard (RIP). Now that it's all going to Hell in a handcart...nothing. Even the tumbleweed has given up and moved on.

I think you're right, Gob. Time for the Trust Board to seize the moment and re-establish itself as the body that fulfils the GASBoard (RIP) terms of reference. If the Trust can establish exactly what those terms are.

But what about Tony and his clipboard? He's personally endorsed by PL2 Faced and has his own updates on Vital and everyfink!

He's spend pounds on leaflets etc. who's going to re-imburse him for that £11?

Maybe some of the money saved on the establishment of the GASBoard could be diverted towards employing a troupe of counsellors and psychologists to help Tony deal with the trauma of seeing his dream of a seat at the top table so cruelly snatched from him.

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Andy_Symons wrote:

The silence from The Supreme Leader has been deafening. Every one of his Supreme Leader Bulletins on the Baggo has, for months, been about the establishment of the GASBoard (RIP). Now that it's all going to Hell in a handcart...nothing. Even the tumbleweed has given up and moved on.

I think you're right, Gob. Time for the Trust Board to seize the moment and re-establish itself as the body that fulfils the GASBoard (RIP) terms of reference. If the Trust can establish exactly what those terms are.

I believe the Trust are ample strong enough to take on the job and as he said, Brent would like fan representation so now he can have it from the largest fan association that we have, the Trust and, it'll be proper fan representation or nothing, this isn't the Chris Webb appreciation hand picked ass wipers society, it can be a real, true and legitimate representation representing the majority, not a hand picked junta for Argyle fans that sew and knit and only have one eyebrow or something ridiculous to gain a foot in the door!

Time to stand up and be counted, Trust!

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Rickler wrote:

Andy_Symons wrote:

The silence from The Supreme Leader has been deafening. Every one of his Supreme Leader Bulletins on the Baggo has, for months, been about the establishment of the GASBoard (RIP). Now that it's all going to Hell in a handcart...nothing. Even the tumbleweed has given up and moved on.

Too True.

When the hour cometh.. The man didn't.

Now that the situation truely needs a leader. There is nobody at Argyle stepping up.

What is the plan now? Just carry on with the election as if there are no concerns, and then announce the winners in a few weeks?

That will go down well.

Interesting, all the time he was outside looking in, he could dish it out. Now he's on the inside ....nothing.

Not all his own fault and maybe he's knocking down doors and demanding answers on the quiet before making some kind of announcement. Bear in mind, he's got his day job to do and there should be paid professionals at PAFC that should have responded.

The fact that the club has not even acknowledged that there's a problem publically is really piss poor.

No dogs of war being unleashed here.

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shonbo wrote:

Interesting, all the time he was outside looking in, he could dish it out. Now he's on the inside ....nothing.

Not all his own fault and maybe he's knocking down doors and demanding answers on the quiet before making some kind of announcement. Bear in mind, he's got his day job to do and there should be paid professionals at PAFC that should have responded.

The fact that the club has not even acknowledged that there's a problem publically is really piss poor.

I agree to an extent, but there are plenty of people who've got day jobs to do who have managed to comment, and in the case of Tim Chown, show a whole lot more leadership on the issue.

And it's a truth universally acknowledged that the Supreme Leader doesn't do anything at the club without tweeting about it or at least briefing people to post messages on his behalf so he's presented in a positive light to the adoring masses. If he was doing something, we'd have heard about it.

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Andy_Symons wrote:

shonbo wrote:

Interesting, all the time he was outside looking in, he could dish it out. Now he's on the inside ....nothing.

Not all his own fault and maybe he's knocking down doors and demanding answers on the quiet before making some kind of announcement. Bear in mind, he's got his day job to do and there should be paid professionals at PAFC that should have responded.

The fact that the club has not even acknowledged that there's a problem publically is really piss poor.

I agree to an extent, but there are plenty of people who've got day jobs to do who have managed to comment, and in the case of Tim Chown, show a whole lot more leadership on the issue.

And it's a truth universally acknowledged that the Supreme Leader doesn't do anything at the club without tweeting about it or at least briefing people to post messages on his behalf so he's presented in a positive light to the adoring masses. If he was doing something, we'd have heard about it.

I was trying to be charitable drunken

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