Why the recent disappearance and subsequent re-appearance of members? keepitgreem being the latest.

They just miss us all so much!

fllouncers, the lot of em

My Mrs asked me the same thing the other morning.

Fair enough.

Nobody disputes the good work Ian Newell has done for the club, and yes you're right that too many threads do degenerate into another attack on him, but see the thread Yeaman started today where he has received threats via e-mail, and the only place that has had his e-mail address who would want to send such threats would be Pasoti, and from Pasoti mods.

I would accuse Tony Cholwell to his face, or on here again, but he has decided not to post on here anymore, and I am exiled.

That's another point where Ian Newell comes into the thread because it was he, several times, and Chris Webb who told me in no uncertain terms that it was Tony Cholwell who was the P.I. hired by Lee Jameson to track me down.

So if you are disappearing again Bob, why don't you ask Tony and Ian together which one is telling the truth on the matter? Unless of course you are accusing me, and everyone who saw Ian Newell's comments on Cerbera's ill fated site, of being liars.

That doesn't fit in with your agenda though does it Bob?

I won't bother going into the matter of Peggy being called a witch and a whore and being removed from her feature in the matchday programme, or the many, many other dirty tricks that have emanated from Mr Newell, who in one of many conversations I have had with Chris Webb, has been described as a madman when it comes to online forums, and in particular being obsessed with this one to a point where on away trips he is constantly logged in checking on us.

And it isn't worth mentioning the 10,000+ posts he has made on Exeweb, because I suppose they have all been friendly banter?

Yes he has raised fantastic amounts of money for the club, but in my opinion he is a madman and has caused lots of decent people, Argyle fans, enormous distress, so the crap he gets back is justified.

I hope for the sake of Greensonscreen that you never fall out with the man, because I think you would see an entirely different side to Ian Newell that might change your green-tinted mind about him..

Oh and please stick around long enough to tell us what both Ian and Tony have to say on the subject.

I for one would be interested in finding out if someone who is a firm friend of James Brent and the Club President, and gets to sit in the Directors Box, is a downright liar, or if it is someone who will almost certainly sit on a board that will have some kind of say in the running of the club, due to him being friends with the right people on Pasoti.

I won't hold my breath though.

I have lots of sympathy with what you say KiG. I said as much - but less eloquently - when I first signed up.

At it's best ATD is an acerbic balance to pasoti. People are not afraid to question and challenge the perceived wisdom. At its best it puts up an opposition to the 'establishment' in a way that perhaps Private Eye does in another format. At its best ATD is a passionate supporter of Argyle who sees any owner as merely temporary and sees any cabal of uber-supporters as being in it for their own advancement. (In passing, whilst totally acknowledging the excellent work that the Green Taverners plus Sue & her Bucket Rattlers have done, the bulk of the money raised via the auctions have come from contrived extravaganzas that have led to Nikkk putting his hand in his pocket. All power to Nikk & the fact that he has expressly requested his anonymity.)

At it's worst ATD is your nightmare neighbour continually twitching the curtains to see what is going on outside. At its worst ATD is the worst form of village (intentional choice of word) 'tutter' who sees something going on outside and then 'tuts' as a conditioned reflex. In the past they would have written a letter to the local press complaining about the dog shit on the pavements. Instead, nowadays they post a comment on the internet.

ATD both excites & exasperates.

Please continue posting. Be prepared to be challenged. And both of that is good.

Jock, believe me I have no agenda. I just want to visit an Argyle discussion site that's not being used primarily to attack other people, whoever it may be. I'm calling no one a liar, all I'm saying is that this site is being used to fight personal battles. Why has this site got 377 members and yet very few post on here? Maybe they're happy to look in and view the side show? Who knows?
Yea Man, just a quick look at the Mayflower sees the Danny Salman thread having a pop at Chris Webb and the Says It All thread, while not directly knocking the Senior Greens, is certainly knocking the voluntary side of it.
Knetch, challenge the club yes (although if they're that challenging why didn't any of them stand for the PASB) (or better still, elections for the Trust are coming up) but all I'm saying is that at the moment the site doesn't excite me but exasperates me.
Jock, I took no offence in your tone, but you're asking me to get involved in exactly the thing I'm moaning about on here, personal battles. I'm a man in the middle who wants to talk Argyle, watch Argyle and sleep Argyle.

I understand Bob, but you can't say Ian and Tony are being attacked incorrectly when one of them is obviously lying.

It is personal with me due to past events, but also because I love Argyle and have done for nigh on 30 years, and there is something badly wrong with it at the moment.

It's not nice thinking your family is in danger because of a football forum, and it's not nice and not fair that a lifelong fan is removed from the matchday programme just because she isn't liked by the person you are defending.

There probably should be an Ian Newell/dig at Pasoti section that people can choose not to read if they don't like it, but the site is what it is and that's why some love it and some hate it.

A bit like Ian Newell or marmite I suppose