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Rickler



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PostSubject: PASB Final Report   Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:23 am

As the PASB elections will be held soon --

Here is a copy of the PASB final report that was sent to the club by Professor David Wheeler.

It had 'disappeared' from public view!

Many thanks to the 'Prof" for his help, and to Peter Jones for supplying it, as Chris Webb refuses to engage in any dialogue with me at all.

I ‘translated’ it from a Powerpoint presentation file, so hopefully there are no errors.



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Formation of the Plymouth Argyle Supporters Board

Presentation to Stakeholders Group 21st April 2012
Amended with Stakeholder Feedback 22nd April 2012

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Process So Far

—Invitation to form Supporters Board 14th January
—Announcement of process 12th February
—Meeting 25th February
—Meeting 31st March
—Multiple individual submissions received

—5 full questionnaires received from organised groups
—Meeting 21st April
—Report released 5th May

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Proposed Mission*

High Level:
To establish a legitimate voice for all PAFC fans with a view to influencing the future of the club.

In Addition:
To hold the legal board to account
To generate effective two way communications between the fans and the legal board
To build a community to support the team and the club

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Principles of the Board to Include*

—Inclusivity
—Transparency
—Honesty
—Accountability
—Pragmatism
—Comprehensiveness

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Priorities emerging from the stakeholder surveys*

Most stakeholders felt that all of the below should be priorities for the Supporters Board:

—Holding the legal board of PAFC to account for financial and management decisions
—Improving the experience of season ticket holders, home supporters, travelling and distant supporters
—Encouraging community and youth engagement

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Setting the Supporters Board Up for Success*

—The Board mission and mandate should reflect all interests
—All constituencies should see their agenda reflected in the mission
—It is OK for there to be overlap between the mandates of the Board and other groups; and it is OK for supporters groups to pursue their interests in other fora

—The Board should be formed in two steps
—Interim for October 2012
—Stable for October 2013

—The Board Constitution should be developed over 12 months from October 2012 to fit practice and experience (ie nothing should be ruled in and nothing ruled out)

—Need to trust the good intentions of the interim board members
Accept that legitimacy and democracy will build over time

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Proposed Process for Establishment of Supporters Board

—Agree two interim constituencies – May:
i) Independent fans groups; and ii) club members

—Newsletter and programme communication May 5th
—Generate nominations in both constituencies – June-July
—Elect through club members and elect/nominate via independent fans groups
—Establish interim board – October 2012
—Agree modus operandi first meeting – October 2012
—Elect chair and vice chairs
—Endorse mission and mandate first meeting – October 2012

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Proposed Numbers on the Interim Supporters Board*

Independent Supporters Groups:

6 Members – approx one member per 500 supporters with due attention paid to diversity

Club Members (all categories):

6 members - including at least one woman and at least one youth member

* It was noted that supporters who are not signed up members of the club or an independent supporters group will not be able to participate directly in the formation of the interim Board. Mechanisms to include such supporters in future elections may be designed during 2012/13.

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Nominations and Voting

—Independent Support Groups:
Groups self organise to decide split of six places

Direct nominations decided and/or internal elections run by groups

Organised groups notify club and/or David Wheeler of six nominees by 31st July 2012


—Club Members:
—Nominees collected via club following call for nominees on May 5th

—Club organises elections by email or mail between June and July

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Establishment of Interim Board

—Club notifies all stakeholders of its proposed schedule of meetings with the Interim Supporters Board

—Club invites all nominees – Independent Supporters Groups and elected members

—Interim Board meets in October 2012 with an agenda to:
—Ratify or amend Mission and Mandate
—Elect Chair and Vice Chairs
—Communicate priority topics of interest to discuss with the legal board at the first joint meeting
—Adopt sub groups, structures, budgets, programme of work, constitution etc


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GOB



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PostSubject: Re: PASB Final Report   Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:03 am

I got as far as...

Inclusivity
—Transparency
—Honesty
—Accountability
—Pragmatism
—Comprehensiveness

and I burst into laughter! lol!
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Frank Bullitt



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PostSubject: Re: PASB Final Report   Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:57 am

I got as far as:

. If you don't elect the people WE want, WE will destroy the GAS board and replace it with something else.
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Tim Chown



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PostSubject: Re: PASB Final Report   Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:58 am

This may be the same presentation as this one we put on the Trust site:
http://www.argylefanstrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Plymouth-Argyle-Supporters-Board.pdf
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knecht



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PostSubject: Re: PASB Final Report   Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:11 am

Anyone know whose idea the PASB was?
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PostSubject: Re: PASB Final Report   Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:48 pm

knecht wrote:
Anyone know whose idea the PASB was?


mine but i was very very drunk at the time


farao
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Greenjock



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PostSubject: Re: PASB Final Report   Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:02 pm

Renegade wrote:
knecht wrote:
Anyone know whose idea the PASB was?


mine but i was very very drunk at the time


farao


Liar, I'm Spartacus!
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tcm



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PostSubject: Re: PASB Final Report   Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:21 pm

whoaaaaaaaa,slow down there people,,,my idear
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Rickler



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PostSubject: Re: PASB Final Report   Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:39 pm

Tim Chown wrote:
This may be the same presentation as this one we put on the Trust site:
http://www.argylefanstrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Plymouth-Argyle-Supporters-Board.pdf


Indeed it was... My apologies Tim.

The great irony of course, is that it can be found on the AFT site but not on the official Argyle one.

Coupled with the fact that you respond to an inquiry from the public and President Webb who is at the helm of all things PASB ignores the situation.

Moving on...

The latest feck up --

“Initial indications are that the voting period will open in early September and close at the end of the same month.”

http://www.pafc.co.uk/news/article/presidents-progess-2308-331057.aspx

So the Prez corrects that --

Chris Webb‏@Chris_Webb1
#PASB elections - Ballot Papers dispatched 28/9. Close 19/10. Result 20/10. Hustings TBC @Only1Argyle website on Monday for details. #Pafc

http://twitter.com/chris_webb1


Needless to say... There is no info on the baggo!

Nothing ever changes with Argyle! No wonder fans give up on the club.

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