Open supporter meeting with James Brent, 15th September

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Hi,

The Argyle Fans' Trust has arranged for James Brent to speak to an open supporter meeting before the home match against Port Vale on Saturday 15th September.

The meeting is at the Citybus Social Club, which is a short walk from Home Park, starting at 1pm.

More details including a link to a map showing the location of the venue are available here.

This is a great chance for supporters to come along to hear the latest news from Home Park and ask any questions they may have.

Tim

I've edited this post just to change the title back to what it was. I merged hairy j's post into this thread as it was the same as what Tim had already said but for some reason the thread title changed so i've edited it back to what it was - Yea Man

Could be interesting if we're bottom 5 still.

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As the new season gets underway, the Argyle Fans’ Trust has arranged for James Brent to speak to an open supporter meeting before the home match against Port Vale on Saturday September 15th.

The meeting is to be held at the Citybus Social Club, near Home Park, and begins at 1pm. Doors will be open from 12.30pm onwards.

All supporters are welcome to attend.

James will give the latest news from Home Park and talk about his plans for the club, after which there will be time for fans to ask any questions they may have.

Guest

You going Freathy? Punchy?

It would certainly counter the people who call you keyboard warriors and one-trick ponies. What more could you want than an open Q&A with the man who is destroying your club?

He's like a frikkin politician with his answers. We've seen the Q&A transcripts .

Listen to what the fine gentleman wants you to believe and be good Avivas.

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Exactly these Q and A's... Open Meetings call them what you like are a complete and utter waste of time.Bit like Saturday afternoons.....

oddball wrote:

Exactly these Q and A's... Open Meetings call them what you like are a complete and utter waste of time.Bit like Saturday afternoons.....

Oh I don't know Al, you managed to get him quite agitated at the CT Very Happy

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Tringreen wrote:

. We've seen the Q&A transcripts .

We have? That's news to me!

There were never any 'Transcripts'. That was a promise not kept by Andy Symons and Rick Cowdery.

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What have the Romans ever done for us eh?

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hairy j wrote:

What have the Romans ever done for us eh?

Care to explain what that has to do with this situation?

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Quite impressed.

It's been twelve hours and no-one's complained about the time, date or location of the meeting yet.

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John_Lloyd wrote:

Quite impressed.

It's been twelve hours and no-one's complained about the time, date or location of the meeting yet.

I won't be complaining as at the time i will be on the way back to oxford (move into new house).

John_Lloyd wrote:

Quite impressed.

It's been twelve hours and no-one's complained about the time, date or location of the meeting yet.

Oh ok then. I don't like the time or the date and can it be moved to maidenhead town hall please! Very Happy

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Tringreen wrote:

He's like a frikkin politician with his answers. We've seen the Q&A transcripts .

Listen to what the fine gentleman wants you to believe and be good Avivas.

That very well may be Tring however firstly this is an open meeting with no pre-set questions. Anyone can simply stand up and question the owner.

The jury is out for me on Brent. We've been scorched too often in the past to believe we are in the presence of the messiah but owners of other football clubs do not afford their supporters this opportunity. Freathy, Grovey and others have their points of view and occasionally Wink

they are argued very eloquently. As they are long standing supporters of this club who feel disenfranchised by the current ownership and investment model what a great opportunity to show JB that there is another way.

Secondly Punchy was arguing for a protest yesterday which a few supported, even if just in principle because they stopped going years ago. In most disputes the answer is some form of dialogue and rather than less than a dozen be knocked off the gate by Punchy's no-show and ATD campaign why not bring his grievances to the meeting and explain why he will not spend a penny more at Argyle until JB has gone.

I'm not asking anyone to look into his eyes. If you want this club to prosper and you feel that JB is being badly advised, is an asset stripper or is just plainly wrong - go tell him.

Rickler wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

. We've seen the Q&A transcripts .

We have? That's news to me!

There were never any 'Transcripts'. That was a promise not kept by Andy Symons and Rick Cowdery.

Think I saw one from the farm Shocked

Nick Wall wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

He's like a frikkin politician with his answers. We've seen the Q&A transcripts .

Listen to what the fine gentleman wants you to believe and be good Avivas.

That very well may be Tring however firstly this is an open meeting with no pre-set questions. Anyone can simply stand up and question the owner.

The jury is out for me on Brent. We've been scorched too often in the past to believe we are in the presence of the messiah but owners of other football clubs do not afford their supporters this opportunity. Freathy, Grovey and others have their points of view and occasionally Wink

they are argued very eloquently. As they are long standing supporters of this club who feel disenfranchised by the current ownership and investment model what a great opportunity to show JB that there is another way.

Secondly Punchy was arguing for a protest yesterday which a few supported, even if just in principle because they stopped going years ago. In most disputes the answer is some form of dialogue and rather than less than a dozen be knocked off the gate by Punchy's no-show and ATD campaign why not bring his grievances to the meeting and explain why he will not spend a penny more at Argyle until JB has gone.

I'm not asking anyone to look into his eyes. If you want this club to prosper and you feel that JB is being badly advised, is an asset stripper or is just plainly wrong - go tell him.

He knows. The top brass, including PJ do look at this forum. They call it internet forum wars and refuse to discuss it.

They have missed the point. It is not a forum war, it is an increasing if still relatively small number of dissidents, who are totally pi$$ed off with the Pasoti Politburo and the likes of Webb n Nool having influence at the club.
Their track record of grovelling compliance, in return for position at HP is what we take issue with. Newell himself has consistently got it wrong with Stapes, Holloway, Todd, Mackie etc etc etc. His internet bullying and obsessive hoarding of material on his flickr pages is further condemnation.
Brent won't talk about those issues. They're mates................ yeah whatever, they're his jamboys.

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Rickler wrote:

hairy j wrote:

What have the Romans ever done for us eh?

Care to explain what that has to do with this situation?

Not really. I won't respond to your "inane drivel" Rickler.

To all the other people though. Why don't you go and ask some questions?

We had one of these at my workplace with the senior management team and it was stage managed and questions were very much vetted and the answers were very much rehearsed.

This might be different and the worst thing that will happen will be you'll be able to buy a cheap pint before the game.

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Tringreen wrote:

Nick Wall wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

He's like a frikkin politician with his answers. We've seen the Q&A transcripts .

Listen to what the fine gentleman wants you to believe and be good Avivas.

That very well may be Tring however firstly this is an open meeting with no pre-set questions. Anyone can simply stand up and question the owner.

The jury is out for me on Brent. We've been scorched too often in the past to believe we are in the presence of the messiah but owners of other football clubs do not afford their supporters this opportunity. Freathy, Grovey and others have their points of view and occasionally Wink

they are argued very eloquently. As they are long standing supporters of this club who feel disenfranchised by the current ownership and investment model what a great opportunity to show JB that there is another way.

Secondly Punchy was arguing for a protest yesterday which a few supported, even if just in principle because they stopped going years ago. In most disputes the answer is some form of dialogue and rather than less than a dozen be knocked off the gate by Punchy's no-show and ATD campaign why not bring his grievances to the meeting and explain why he will not spend a penny more at Argyle until JB has gone.

I'm not asking anyone to look into his eyes. If you want this club to prosper and you feel that JB is being badly advised, is an asset stripper or is just plainly wrong - go tell him.

He knows. The top brass, including PJ do look at this forum. They call it internet forum wars and refuse to discuss it.

They have missed the point. It is not a forum war, it is an increasing if still relatively small number of dissidents, who are totally pi$$ed off with the Pasoti Politburo and the likes of Webb n Nool having influence at the club.
Their track record of grovelling compliance, in return for position at HP is what we take issue with. Newell himself has consistently got it wrong with Stapes, Holloway, Todd, Mackie etc etc etc. His internet bullying and obsessive hoarding of material on his flickr pages is further condemnation.
Brent won't talk about those issues. They're mates................ yeah whatever, they're his jamboys.

So it's not about the club prospering it's about Ian Newell and Chris Webb. So if JB maintained his current budget and CF was still in charge but he dismissed Ian and Chris you'd be happy? Even better if he banned PASOTI from the club...?

One of the characteristics of "village behaviour" along with shagging your cousin are petty feuds when set against the bigger picture.

I thought your argument was better than that Tringy.

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Nick Wall wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Nick Wall wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

He's like a frikkin politician with his answers. We've seen the Q&A transcripts .

Listen to what the fine gentleman wants you to believe and be good Avivas.

That very well may be Tring however firstly this is an open meeting with no pre-set questions. Anyone can simply stand up and question the owner.

The jury is out for me on Brent. We've been scorched too often in the past to believe we are in the presence of the messiah but owners of other football clubs do not afford their supporters this opportunity. Freathy, Grovey and others have their points of view and occasionally Wink

they are argued very eloquently. As they are long standing supporters of this club who feel disenfranchised by the current ownership and investment model what a great opportunity to show JB that there is another way.

Secondly Punchy was arguing for a protest yesterday which a few supported, even if just in principle because they stopped going years ago. In most disputes the answer is some form of dialogue and rather than less than a dozen be knocked off the gate by Punchy's no-show and ATD campaign why not bring his grievances to the meeting and explain why he will not spend a penny more at Argyle until JB has gone.

I'm not asking anyone to look into his eyes. If you want this club to prosper and you feel that JB is being badly advised, is an asset stripper or is just plainly wrong - go tell him.

He knows. The top brass, including PJ do look at this forum. They call it internet forum wars and refuse to discuss it.

They have missed the point. It is not a forum war, it is an increasing if still relatively small number of dissidents, who are totally pi$$ed off with the Pasoti Politburo and the likes of Webb n Nool having influence at the club.
Their track record of grovelling compliance, in return for position at HP is what we take issue with. Newell himself has consistently got it wrong with Stapes, Holloway, Todd, Mackie etc etc etc. His internet bullying and obsessive hoarding of material on his flickr pages is further condemnation.
Brent won't talk about those issues. They're mates................ yeah whatever, they're his jamboys.

So it's not about the club prospering it's about Ian Newell and Chris Webb. So if JB maintained his current budget and CF was still in charge but he dismissed Ian and Chris you'd be happy? Even better if he banned PASOTI from the club...?

One of the characteristics of "village behaviour" along with shagging your cousin are petty feuds when set against the bigger picture.

I thought your argument was better than that Tringy.

I was well aware of the bigger picture a very long time ago. It has now become a lot worse , as those incapable of seeing it are advising an owner who appears intent on running the club on the cheap. If by some miracle it works, he will cash in personally but it won't. These mugs backed his bid because he offered them silly hats n titles. It is just so obvious.

Any 'owner' who calls that pair of scheming dimwits friends and listens to them, is either taking the pi$$ out of the fanbase, or is a fool in footballing terms. It goes without saying that as he 'believes' in Fletch, he must have been advised as he knows , by his own admission, f*ck all about football.
All the spin in the world from Brent and Webb will not attract any but the already hooked on bucket rattling and Dave Banana. The wider public will only be interested when the team starts looking like it is going places under an inspirational manager, not a tongue tied player.
Sadly for Brent he'll have to put his hand in his pocket to get the ball rolling[instead of flying through the air], so to speak.
Unless Nikk decides to pay Rolling Eyes

Newell's boast was that there would be no walleted directors. Someone has to invest, or what support is left will dwindle away as their pockets are emptied for another season, to endure the worst standard of football in the club's history, whilst paying off the banker's debts to staff.
It looks to me like a tight banker is allowing the lunatics to take over the asylum. It simply will not work and the club's village image will be further enhanced.
Geddon janner. Rolling Eyes

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James Brent and Peter Jones both read this site.James Brent's favourite is Mouldy Old Goat.

Maybe one of them would like to tell me how wrong I am in that case ?

Don't hold your breath.

Maybe they'd also like to answer why Cobi Budge is not allowed to stand as the youth rep on Brent's Supporters' Board when there are no other candidates ? Maybe they should ask Webb ? No doubt he'll be off to sign a controllable Salsa Verde drone up imminently.
He has been to virtually every home and away game for the last couple of seasons.

Maybe they'd also like to comment on Peggy's disgraceful treatment. Everyone knows who was behind it. They even boasted about it months ago and then tried to pressure Cowdery into not having a club Q&A with ATD.

I could go on but it's pointless. A bit like Argyle most weeks.

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Tringreen wrote:

Nick Wall wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Nick Wall wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

He's like a frikkin politician with his answers. We've seen the Q&A transcripts .

Listen to what the fine gentleman wants you to believe and be good Avivas.

That very well may be Tring however firstly this is an open meeting with no pre-set questions. Anyone can simply stand up and question the owner.

The jury is out for me on Brent. We've been scorched too often in the past to believe we are in the presence of the messiah but owners of other football clubs do not afford their supporters this opportunity. Freathy, Grovey and others have their points of view and occasionally Wink

they are argued very eloquently. As they are long standing supporters of this club who feel disenfranchised by the current ownership and investment model what a great opportunity to show JB that there is another way.

Secondly Punchy was arguing for a protest yesterday which a few supported, even if just in principle because they stopped going years ago. In most disputes the answer is some form of dialogue and rather than less than a dozen be knocked off the gate by Punchy's no-show and ATD campaign why not bring his grievances to the meeting and explain why he will not spend a penny more at Argyle until JB has gone.

I'm not asking anyone to look into his eyes. If you want this club to prosper and you feel that JB is being badly advised, is an asset stripper or is just plainly wrong - go tell him.

He knows. The top brass, including PJ do look at this forum. They call it internet forum wars and refuse to discuss it.

They have missed the point. It is not a forum war, it is an increasing if still relatively small number of dissidents, who are totally pi$$ed off with the Pasoti Politburo and the likes of Webb n Nool having influence at the club.
Their track record of grovelling compliance, in return for position at HP is what we take issue with. Newell himself has consistently got it wrong with Stapes, Holloway, Todd, Mackie etc etc etc. His internet bullying and obsessive hoarding of material on his flickr pages is further condemnation.
Brent won't talk about those issues. They're mates................ yeah whatever, they're his jamboys.

So it's not about the club prospering it's about Ian Newell and Chris Webb. So if JB maintained his current budget and CF was still in charge but he dismissed Ian and Chris you'd be happy? Even better if he banned PASOTI from the club...?

One of the characteristics of "village behaviour" along with shagging your cousin are petty feuds when set against the bigger picture.

I thought your argument was better than that Tringy.

I was well aware of the bigger picture a very long time ago. It has now become a lot worse , as those incapable of seeing it are advising an owner who appears intent on running the club on the cheap. If by some miracle it works, he will cash in personally but it won't. These mugs backed his bid because he offered them silly hats n titles. It is just so obvious.

Any 'owner' who calls that pair of scheming dimwits friends and listens to them, is either taking the pi$$ out of the fanbase, or is a fool in footballing terms. It goes without saying that as he 'believes' in Fletch, he must have been advised as he knows , by his own admission, f*ck all about football.
All the spin in the world from Brent and Webb will not attract any but the already hooked on bucket rattling and Dave Banana. The wider public will only be interested when the team starts looking like it is going places under an inspirational manager, not a tongue tied player.
Sadly for Brent he'll have to put his hand in his pocket to get the ball rolling[instead of flying through the air], so to speak.
Unless Nikk decides to pay Rolling Eyes

Newell's boast was that there would be no walleted directors. Someone has to invest, or what support is left will dwindle away as their pockets are emptied for another season, to endure the worst standard of football in the club's history, whilst paying off the banker's debts to staff.
It looks to me like a tight banker is allowing the lunatics to take over the asylum. It simply will not work and the club's village image will be further enhanced.
Geddon janner. Rolling Eyes

Fine, I understand your argument (I think). You think James Brent needs to understand that the average football supporter parts with £20 every other week to watch a winning, and hopefully entertaining, football team, not happy-clappy side shows such as FV and Fansfests. I agree with you.

You think he either needs to dip into his own resources or share some of that burden with others, particularly if he plans to sell the club if we ever make the CCC again for a huge profit.

You also think that his inner circle is misguided and he's either stupid (I doubt that) or he's being convinced by IJN and CW to keep with CF and maintain the current level of funding.

Your argument has some weight as does the current debate on PASOTI about when the argument "be thankful that we have a club to support" should not be used anymore. The answer surely is to let JB know, and this forum of an open meeting is a great opportunity to do that. Even if they wished IJN and CW cannot neutralise an open meeting organised by the Trust.

What I cannot square with your circle is yours (and Freathy's et al's) support of the club with the reticence to want to address these issues with the decision makers. Why allow JB to be educated by people who you disagree with?

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oddball wrote:

Exactly these Q and A's... Open Meetings call them what you like are a complete and utter waste of time.Bit like Saturday afternoons.....

I'm not sure how you can back that assertion up, Al. You were at the ATD Q&A - it was here that James Brent, after much speculating by the fanbase, finally gave the cash figure that he wanted for the Trust's 20%. If we hadn't secured that admission in our meeting, it's my guess that we'd still be none the wiser, with the Trust not divulging the figure, citing 'confidentiality.'

So I don't believe these meetings are a waste of time. The right question, phrased in the right way, could get into the public domain information that may otherwise remain behind closed doors.

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