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Greenjock

Posts: 8203 Join date: 2012-01-25 Age: 42 Location: Wiltshire
 | Subject: Handbags over the PASB Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:48 am | |
| http://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=70457It's all kicking off over there, first excitement over the PASB since it was first announced. Tony Cholwell being accused of electioneering, and trying to buy votes US election stylee, but he counters well with a flurry of anti Trust jibes and the claim he's spent only £50 on all of his election campaign. Can't cost too much to ensure the majority on Pasoti's votes then, as he's also printing leaflets and newsletters, plus advertising, sorry posting on Vital, which surely can't be free? A whole page ad must be worth something to someone shirley? |
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GOB

Posts: 4964 Join date: 2012-02-21
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:14 pm | |
| Great entertainment value but that's about it. I think TC's just desperate to jump into bed with Newell and Webb to keep his feet warm snuggling up to Brent's arse, I mean, to actually spend money on such a thing!...how desperate is this guy for a slice of the action? |
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Chemical Ali

Posts: 4001 Join date: 2011-05-10 Age: 36 Location: Plymouth
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:39 pm | |
| As has been said before, the pasb should not be a popularity contest, but selection should be based on actual skills for the position.
Trust would play a major part in the selection and as one of the candidates investigates argyle fans and their families and provides details to various people who then threaten the argyle fan would suggest they are totally unsuitable and morally repugnant.
I hope there are hustings! _________________ COYG! Sheridan's Green and White Army!
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Greenjock

Posts: 8203 Join date: 2012-01-25 Age: 42 Location: Wiltshire
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:49 pm | |
| If there are hustings I hope someone asks Tony about his involvement in tracking down fellow Argyle fans for a quick buck, and whether he could be trusted to carry out his role, which would involve having the best interests of Argyle fans at the forefront, instead of selling out for a quick buck. |
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Dougie

Posts: 2108 Join date: 2011-12-02
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:34 pm | |
|  Handbags you say. Funny this is how I imagine Tony. The bag is a good place to keep his binoculars notepad and PI pen. |
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Dougie

Posts: 2108 Join date: 2011-12-02
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:50 pm | |
| Actually Tonys response proves to me that he'll stick the boot into the Trust at any oppurtunty when pushed. It's a default defence. In the past his done it with language calling Trust sponsored nominees puppets and waifs and strays. Now it's more explicit. At the end of the day he can't help himself.
The GasBoard will happen of course but despite being club sponsored being overseen by one of Brents best men The Professor and pushed on the club website, the proxy club website Pasoti (at the expense of the Trust) of course, the President, in the Herald and Radio Devon it's mustered 6 candidates for 9 position in the process entirely failing to fill guaranteed places for youth and women. |
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shonbo

Posts: 1094 Join date: 2011-12-03 Age: 54
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:06 pm | |
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Czarcasm

Posts: 2677 Join date: 2011-10-23
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:14 pm | |
| | Greenjock wrote: | | If there are hustings I hope someone asks Tony about his involvement in tracking down fellow Argyle fans for a quick buck, and whether he could be trusted to carry out his role, which would involve having the best interests of Argyle fans at the forefront, instead of selling out for a quick buck. |
Maybe we could have another ATD fundraiser and hire a plane to fly over Home Park....
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shonbo

Posts: 1094 Join date: 2011-12-03 Age: 54
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:23 pm | |
| £10 in |
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seadog

Posts: 2768 Join date: 2011-05-10 Age: 54 Location: Sailing on the salt sea
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:34 pm | |
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seadog

Posts: 2768 Join date: 2011-05-10 Age: 54 Location: Sailing on the salt sea
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:40 pm | |
| I see John Petrie is accused of hiding behind his keyboard, what's his real name then? |
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Dougie

Posts: 2108 Join date: 2011-12-02
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:59 pm | |
| Great to see Deepthroat endorsing both a set of candidates ,including his personal PI, (without hearing what the else have to say) helps me to know who not to and also endorsing giving the GasBoard time to find it's feet having helped pulled the rug from under a fledgling peace time Trust. Go figure. |
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hairy j

Posts: 1616 Join date: 2012-01-13 Age: 36
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:15 am | |
| | seadog wrote: | | I see John Petrie is accused of hiding behind his keyboard, what's his real name then? |
The same John Petrie who also attends Trust meetings as part of the Trust Board and hardly ever posts on pasoti. Completely agree. I don't like Tony Cholwell's pointless attack on the Trust in that thread and it's completely foolish for Tony to mock the attendance at their AGM as the PASB hasn't been tested in terms of real life attendance - that comment will come back to haunt him and I'm sure Mr Petrie's noted it down for future reference. What he has to gain, if he does get elected (and he will by about 7 votes) is to instantly make enemies once this PASB gets started - although I can see 0.1% interest in the PASB - as the Trust will dominate the PASB.
I'm a bit perplexed too why the official site and these threads keep using the word "Husting" as most people who aren't deeply involved in politics and elections won't have a scooby do what a "husting" is.
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Rickler

Posts: 1970 Join date: 2011-05-10 Location: Inside the mind
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:29 am | |
| | hairy j wrote: | I'm a bit perplexed too why the official site and these threads keep using the word "Husting" as most people who aren't deeply involved in politics and elections won't have a scooby do what a "husting" is.
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Where do you get that notion from (Dad I expect..)?
I'm not deeply involved in politics or elections and I know what 'hustings' are...
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hairy j

Posts: 1616 Join date: 2012-01-13 Age: 36
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:01 am | |
| It's hardly plain English. They call it a stump in America (I learnt that from reading Hunter S. Thompson). Gather round the stump... |
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seadog

Posts: 2768 Join date: 2011-05-10 Age: 54 Location: Sailing on the salt sea
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:11 am | |
| So the PASB could be a stump, how apt. |
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hairy j

Posts: 1616 Join date: 2012-01-13 Age: 36
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:18 am | |
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seadog

Posts: 2768 Join date: 2011-05-10 Age: 54 Location: Sailing on the salt sea
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:05 am | |
|  Spent the night here, the room smelt like a stump, perhaps why the Caledonian Inn in Port Fairy is so named. |
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GOB

Posts: 4964 Join date: 2012-02-21
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seadog

Posts: 2768 Join date: 2011-05-10 Age: 54 Location: Sailing on the salt sea
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:33 am | |
| Or after a cyberflounce,
We'll Tweet Again |
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 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:27 pm | |
| Tony's latest missive has been published on Pravda Vital - wherein our hero answers all those burning questions about the GASBoard (you know, the ones that should have been answered satisfactorily before the election process was even thought about), yet he fails to answer, or even consider, the one question that has been consistently raised from across the supporters spectrum - Namely, why not just engage with the Trust instead of setting up the GASBoard fiasco? Anyhoo, there would be nothing calculated to raise a bigger laugh from this corner of Plymouth than Tony, despite all the money he's spending, all the free publicity Postey and pasoti are giving him, and all the effort he's making, failing to get elected. I wonder when he'll attempt to justify his part in the Jock/Jameson/PI disgrace? http://www.plymouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=292337&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter |
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hairy j

Posts: 1616 Join date: 2012-01-13 Age: 36
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:42 am | |
| Tony has put a lot of time into this election campaign but it's thus far a really mundane campaign and I'm sure he's confused about what this is all about. He claims it's to make those who run PAFC accountable. I'm not sure how a group of people can do that if James Brent decides that this whole thing is not working or pointless. It's a 'token gesture'.
James Brent owns the club and I think if Tony Cholwell turns up at his office with a clip-board and his Neighbourhood Watch t-shirt on, with some complaint or issue, he'll unleash the hounds.
The PASB folder on pasoti is still essentially an abyss of disinterest.
We've had two home league games and a cup game so far and there's nothing in the ground to advertise this - no posters that I've seen, no flyers handed out, no announcement at half time on the tannoy, not a sausage.
It's not even going to be an anti-climax when it all happens either as there's no real interest in it to start with. |
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Mock Cuncher

Posts: 3363 Join date: 2011-05-12 Age: 92 Location: Kingsbridge Castles
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:55 am | |
| For Hooper, I can't help but feel that it's a about joining his thick mate in the director's box.
We saw them both gurning in there on GoS in pre-season. It was like the cats who got the cream. And had demolished several cartons of the stuff. |
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Dougie

Posts: 2108 Join date: 2011-12-02
 | Subject: Re: Handbags over the PASB Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:44 am | |
| | Quote: | Professor David Wheeler of Plymouth University, an acknowledged expert of Government and Governance |
I don't usually LOL but really LOL. It's been a cock up from beginning to end. And even now there is no compulsion for supporters groups to elect their GasBoard members, no need for them to publish membership numbers or financial details. So how they can hold the club to account is beyond me whilst their own situation is foggy.
And he couldn't even engage enough with 20 million stakeholders* (nor the President for that matter who has been all over this like a rash despite attempting to apparently undermine it raison d'etre by wanting a Trust slate**) to get a female or youth rep.
As for Chowells newsletters one of them mentioned pasties and thats all you need to know about the depth of the GasBoard. It's represents or posits nothing that couldn't be dealt with by the Trust or John Lloyds annual survey.
*actually the stakeholders would have been better represented by giving all club members Trust membership (with an opt out for Chowell) and including the Trust fee in the cost of membership (with an opt out for Chowell). No need for the gasboard instant broader representation, instant funds for the Trust and those who are not club members can still join the Trust and be represented. Have that Professor.
**to my mind a sure fire way of making the Trust a target was for it to hijack the GasBoard (just my opinion) |
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