Well, no one can say I haven't waited and asked several times over a week or two now, and the only reply I have received is this site will continue with it's recent policy that resulted in the sharing of private details with another website, when there was no legal requirement to do so .... as long as a majority of moderators choose to do so.

The continuing of that policy is totally unacceptable to me as a poster, and I thought that such sort of change of policy was to be decided by the membership, not the moderating/admin group. I understand the site is evolving, and good luck to it, but I will not accept the sharing of information with other private individuals based on the say so of a majority verdict of moderators.
I'm deleting my account.

Well, it appears I cannot delete my own account anymore..
Can someone please delete it asap. Thanks.

Penz you have a PM.

It's funny. I never got a satisfactory answer as to why my details were given to posty on pasoti either

Don't go Penz !

The constitution states that suggested amendments/additions can be put forward by any qualifying member for consideration by Admin as a whole and that a two thirds majority rule will apply.

Please put forward your suggestion and see what response you receive before leaving the forum.

It was suggested Tring, I suggested it. I think that you were one of those to dismiss it?

Penz is quite right, it's a concern that this loophole has not been closed but I believe that there are enough mods with the noggin on board to prevent a similar thing from occurring again. That wouldn't prevent a rouge mod from handing over private and confidential information though.

Right. None of us are experts, but this is basically what we've got so far. We've also highlighted that looking at the list of rules which everyone agrees to on signing up, there are, ahem, quite a few which are flouted as and when people deem fit anyway, which will be looked at.

However, this particular issue is important, people's data is their lives, loose lips cost lives, etc, and we would value your input to help shape ATD policy. So far we've come up with a statement to possibly put into the constitution (or elsewhere if anywhere else is relevant?), but we're open to amending it if it is felt it doesn't cover enough or there needs to be clarification. On the whole the general ethos in the mod room now is 'don't share anything with anybody so long as we can possibly help it' - putting that into words for the constitution is different. Here's what we have so far:

Quote:

Although not strictly governed by the Data Protection Act, ATD and it's administration team will take a course which abides by it's terms. If you handle personal information about individuals, you have a number of legal obligations to protect that information under the Data Protection Act 1998. The legislation hasn't quite caught up with the evolution of the internet, but ATD is not deemed by the Administration team as an exception to this. Broadly, this means that personal data will be kept just that, personal. Moderators and keyholders will abide by the terms of DPA. In the event of a subject access request, moderators will refer the request to the keyholders, who will in turn ensure that the request meets the conditions required before releasing any information.

Thoughts?

You can't give assurances Mock but it's probably as good as you can get it. At the end of the day, it's down to trust.

I would also say with regards to the present team, you 'all' have that trust from me.

...and from me and my dog too...

shonbo you forgot this

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Has Penz gone? I hope not as at times it's an education reading his posts.

Me too. I hope he can be persuaded that there will be no sharing or breaches of privacy again.

Me 3. I don't always agree with what he says but he makes this site all the better for his presence and posting on it.

Me 4. I really miss his PMs.

Penz was one of the reasons I signed up and stayed on here. He posts nonsense at times but in such a way that it is nearly always worth a read. Lots of what he says is a joy to read and stimulating.

He sets high standards - (and why not!?). My view is that he has over-reacted and too quickly but for understandable reasons. The delay in answering his question may well have been down to the election process during which this site effectively had only two mods working at full power (I have been ill, in hospital and am now recovering) and then a short while whilst the new ones have pulled up their chairs. The new people have been a breath of fresh air in the mod room. Charlie and Mike are no longer running the show a lot on their own.

Mock's proposal to add to the constitution are far more important than an individual's stance. They should be what is being discussed.

Mock Cuncher wrote:

......... Quote: Although not strictly governed by the Data Protection Act, ATD and it's administration team will take a course which abides by it's terms. If you handle personal information about individuals, you have a number of legal obligations to protect that information under the Data Protection Act 1998. The legislation hasn't quite caught up with the evolution of the internet, but ATD is not deemed by the Administration team as an exception to this. Broadly, this means that personal data will be kept just that, personal. Moderators and keyholders will abide by the terms of DPA. In the event of a subject access request, moderators will refer the request to the keyholders, who will in turn ensure that the request meets the conditions required before releasing any information. Thoughts?

I agree with Knecht, more or less....

But, if Penz really does believe that individual action can bring about change - then he will stick around and influence ATD policy.

I for one hope that he does.

And right or wrong, in my book.... Penz is always a good read!

Me and Penz have our differences but I consider him a mate, he'll be back, he's probably doing what we should all do now and again and having a cool off

All Admin has to do is add the policy to the constitution ,if at least 6 out of the 8 agree.

I trust that someone is also keeping Penz informed.

No personal information should be disclosed to anyone under any circumstance, end of. If there is a legal requirement, let them get a court order first.