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Grovehill



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PostSubject: One season wonders   One season wonders EmptyFri Jul 12, 2019 8:45 pm

Do people think that there's a risk that Ryan Lowe's Bury [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] aka PAFC might already be at risk of being "found out" in the footballing sense?

There are hundred's of examples of teams or players that have one good season and then fade from the scene as other teams find out how to combat either their tactics or individual players' playing styles, Leicester City being the most obvious recent example. It's clear that RL is intending to replicate the playing style of last season's successful Bury team, using a core of ex Bury players. But, as most teams and players in the Division will be more aware of what to expect, is there a risk that the tactics and individuals might not be so successful. And if that is the case, does the manager have a plan B?
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PostSubject: Re: One season wonders   One season wonders EmptyFri Jul 12, 2019 8:58 pm

Maybe RL can answer the above questions.
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PostSubject: Re: One season wonders   One season wonders EmptyFri Jul 12, 2019 9:06 pm

It does make me smile, some of the people on here. I’m a miserable cnut generally, but geez, it really does seem that some refuse to glean any pleasure at all from ANYTHING Argyle related. Instead they actively look for something to moan about.

It’s got difficult for them lately. Brents gone. A new stands nearly here. Newells outta the Directors Box. Hallett is paying off old shite managers then head hunting (and  paying compo for) a manager like Lowe. We’ve just spent reasonable actual money on a player.

For me, even as a miserable Cnut, all that last paragraph falls into the ‘reasons to be cheerful’ category.

I’m far from Aviva. But if you can’t recognise and enjoy positives when they show themselves, what’s the point?
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PostSubject: Re: One season wonders   One season wonders EmptyFri Jul 12, 2019 9:19 pm

Czarcasm wrote:
It does make me smile, some of the people on here. I’m a miserable cnut generally, but geez, it really does seem that some refuse to glean any pleasure at all from ANYTHING Argyle related. Instead they actively look for something to moan about.

It’s got difficult for them lately. Brents gone. A new stands nearly here. Newells outta the Directors Box. Hallett is paying off old shite managers then head hunting (and  paying compo for) a manager like Lowe. We’ve just spent reasonable actual money on a player.

For me, even as a miserable Cnut, all that last paragraph falls into the ‘reasons to be cheerful’ category.

I’m far from Aviva. But if you can’t recognise and enjoy positives when they show themselves, what’s the point?


Good Post

This exactly,100%
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PostSubject: Re: One season wonders   One season wonders EmptyFri Jul 12, 2019 9:32 pm

Think Grove Hill has a point mind.
Bury hardly pulled up any trees and stumbled over the line.
Even with paying top dollar wages.

Lets see how many players he signs that he hasn't worked with before.

In three weeks we ll have some answers to the questions
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PostSubject: Re: One season wonders   One season wonders EmptyFri Jul 12, 2019 11:05 pm

For the first time in 7/8 years, I'm pretty optimistic about his years campaign. Saying that, I wish Lowey would mix it up a bit instead of bringing in every thing Bury FC hoping for an immediate return to LG1.

It might work, might not. I fear for the fan-base reaction to the latter.

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PostSubject: Re: One season wonders   One season wonders EmptyFri Jul 12, 2019 11:24 pm

Without doubt there needs to be more additions. Adams saturated the squad with two year contracted duffers, so it could prove an expensive season wage-wise if those duffers sit tight.
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PostSubject: Re: One season wonders   One season wonders EmptySat Jul 13, 2019 7:52 am

We basically need a new team and the remaining crap after Freddie, Ruben and Graham left need to be completely sidelined until contracts expire and play no part at all in this seasons campaign. Lowe (and hallett) need to do a lot more particularly in defence.  This is an appalling division with very little quality in any of the teams.  Four teams go up - we just have to be the least shite but many of our players are bottom 2 standard not top 4.
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PostSubject: Re: One season wonders   One season wonders EmptySat Jul 13, 2019 8:08 am

I think Grovehill's thread is bordering on the neurotic, I guess a lot of fans will be very questioning of Lowe's abilities and tactics given his comments so far and he is unknown to the fanbase, particularly after seven years of mediocre/shite football.

Not really that difficult is it to get promoted, board and manager make a clear statement of intent, the squad is adequately funded, Lowe does his bit and the fanbase support the manager and players. For me
if we don't finish in the top four this season then the club and management have failed.
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PostSubject: Re: One season wonders   One season wonders EmptySat Jul 13, 2019 11:29 am

I really do want a successful Argyle team. I'm just a bit concerned that RL is putting all his eggs in one basket.

Also, hiring anyone on the basis of "one good season" can be a risky strategy. I hope we've hit the jackpot and found another Malcolm Allison (hired on the back of a few good results at Bath City) but we might also have got an inexperienced manager who doesn't know what to do when things gone wrong.

What if 3-4-3 isn't working, key players lose form or get injured, fans turn against him etc. etc. ?

I just think managers are better if they have done some sort of "appenticeship" Waiters came here after working as a coach for a number of Clubs and the FA, Hodges did a couple of seasons at TUFC (and still failed) Shilton had no coaching experience (and look how that ended) I can only think of a few who have gone straight from player to successful manager without any setbacks and those that have have usually had the support of excellent and experienced coaches.
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PostSubject: Re: One season wonders   One season wonders EmptySat Jul 13, 2019 12:12 pm

So far lowe has been talking the talk, as usual ten games in should give some kind of indicator if RL is walking the walk.
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PostSubject: Re: One season wonders   One season wonders EmptySat Jul 13, 2019 1:20 pm

One mans realism is deemed by another as pessimism. This is just a talking shop, different fans have differing opinions always have done always will do. Me and Grovey may well be proved completely wrong. I don't think Adams turned good players into shite, he signed a lot of shite, they all had pretty mediocre past careers and yes they were shite last season. We still have nearly all those players at the back and try as I might I can't feel optimistic about that.
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