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Big Robby



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Earwegoagain wrote:
Big Robby wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
My guess would be that we are absolutely potless broke. I've been alluding to it all season with the pace of the mankover. To anyone in business it would make perfect sense, grandstand budget has by Halletts own admission escalated, more money needs to be found but only in stage payments as and when each stage is completed, slow the build up and you slow the cash drain up. Now all of a sudden we find ourselves down a league with the immediate loss of over £400k from the football league plus season tickets will inevitably take a big hit. We maybe £1m or even more down on next seasons budget, just have had to pay Adams and Wotton off and so it goes on.
The next really odd thing is that we seem to have someone managing the first team, issuing the retained list, releasing players, not the actions of a club just about to sign one of the many applicants for the post. Just such dithering as we have seen for the past three summers in fact.
Lastly but not leastly you have rumours around on social media that the club has run out of money, this next post from Furher Newell just adds fuel to the fire IMO.


"There's a problem here isn't there?

Someone who has tried to continue a rumour or hearsay has bottled out (thankfully). People will now try to pressure him or discuss this further.

Be careful, very careful what is said or suggested next.

Best just to leave it or PM each other. There are a few Argyle employees who read this site regularly and the poo will hit the fan if something is said which is potentially libellous.

It simply isn't worth the hassle people."

Something stinks and it ain't just mouldy bacon.

That bit from IJN was when somebody earlier in the thread implied that Adams and Wotton had been sacked due to gross misconduct or something like that which meant they did not get paid off and it seemed like a pretty sensible warning to give to stop people posting the kind of drivel Harvetheslayer posts as fact on here on a daily basis.

That's not something I'd heard. As for Harve he's Harve feck all to do with me what he posts or not. My thoughts outlined above are just that, my thoughts. It's a discussion forum FFS not pasoti despite now having a friend of the chairman doing a Nool like job in attacking the poster and not the post. I'll be accused of mouth breathing next.

I was just pointing out what IJN was warning posters about because I had read the post and wondered if there was anything to the rumours. I didnt say you were anything to do with Harve I was just saying that IJN was right in warning posters about posting a load of bollocks like Harve does on here. You have to admit his insider info is about as reliable as reading tea leaves.

No hostility meant on my part.
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One of lifes mysteries, a club with ten thousand fans fail to mantain third division football, then claim they are unsustainable or skint.
If Hallet had made sure the club had the squad needed to thrive in the third division, then the whining by  Hallet and his fans about the cost of relegation would not be happening! Argyle got relegated because him and Brent were/are crap clueless owners who let the ten thousand fans who pay top whack down simple has that. The club has been neglected and mismanaged by the owners, now the fans are paying the price aswell as Hallet, by having to endure dogshit football next season and beyond.
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is Si covering all the payoff to DA and PW? is Mr 30% not paying 30%?
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sufferedsince 68 wrote:
One of lifes mysteries, a club with ten thousand fans fail to mantain third division football, then claim they are unsustainable or skint..

And with two supposedly rich owners in succession.
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How can the club win here?

If they make a quick and decisive appointment of somebody we have never heard of then they'll be accused of being rash and appointing the cheapest guy.

If they make a quick and decisive appointment of a known name, say Holloway, then it'll all be "bloody traitor", "has he got the budget" and so on.

And there is no real need to act incredibly quickly at all. Better to take stock, see how the budget for next season has been affected by relegation, work out what can be offered to the next manager, work out what the impact of losing Adams as our Director Of Football is, work out where we need to strengthen corporately, decide which direction we need to go in off the pitch as well as on it in terms of youth structure and scouting and so on.

All very boring but all very professional.

Most of us have been grumbling for years about Argyle's amateurism and bumbling incompetence; about how we make so many poor decisions in so many areas - examples are legion.

But right now we have a newish owner, will soon have the fabled "New Grandstand", have a new manager, new scouts, new coaches and virtually a whole new squad of players.

Consider everything carefully, act rationally and lay down some proper foundations for once and in the years to come, it'll all take time for youth strategies and so on to bear fruit, we could be a shining example to one and all of what means to be a genuinely community-orientated football club doing all it can for the city it serves, the team that represents it and the fans who support it instead of the headline act disguising a variety of off-pitch property scams.

Actually the state of the club now is reminiscent of it post-Pulis: we are down to the bare bones but there is huge scope for the next guy to stamp his mark and the right Next Guy could leave his mark for generations to come.

Will our recruitment process be able to find the right man? No idea. But before we do look for him we need to decide the attributes that the next Right Man must possess and I guess that's where we are right now.

We are at a fork in the road. In one direction lies further enduring mediocrity; in the other the sunlit uplands of progress and entertainment.There's no point in making, and no need to make, a rash guess as to which is the right one is there?
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Agree with most of that, just get it right.
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The right manager is important....no panic selection...such as Holloway is needed thank you.
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Investment.

That’s what is needed. That’s what keeps the vast majority of clubs who are above us, above us.

What do we have in the Boardroom? 10 Directors? The vast majority of whom bring the square root of fuckall to the table. The Family Brents need to take their payoff and slither away. Stop looking to tick boxes by bringing people in who deliver nothing at all tangible. If we are going to compete with teams that have investment from their Boardrooms, we need more than just Simon Hallett keeping us afloat.

While I’m sceptical the mankover will deliver little more finance wise than the loan payment needed to service it, it WILL make the club slightly more appealing to a potential investor.

With Brent finally history soon (please God), that will clear a massive hurdle in terms of Boardroom leeches looking solely to line their pockets.

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Or it could be that the next manager is still employed somewhere and negotiations are under way about compensation, and this could be further complicated if he want's to bring 1 or 2 people with him.
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With Brent (hopefully) leaving will this include his offspring?
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Negotiations underway with Liverpool?
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tigertony wrote:
Negotiations underway with Liverpool?

You overdosed on your Ritalin again Anthony laugh
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. What is needed is to get rid of the keep argyle crap movement because we are a feckin joke.
I'm not laughing
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Hopefully they’re taking their time to ensure what they think will be the correct appointment, Dunsford has a lot of experience with recruiting club managers
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Lowe was interviewed according to Errington.
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Graiser wrote:
Hopefully they’re taking their time to ensure what they think will be the correct appointment, Dunsford has a lot of experience with recruiting club managers

Unless the Durnford gag is a piss poor attempt at you trolling or fishing for a bite, then were bleddy fecked if Durnford is recruiting us a manager.
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Angry wrote:
Lowe was interviewed according to Errington.

From what I've heard, Lowe is the only person so far (up to yesterday night) that there has been any serious dialogue with.
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Bob Crow wrote:
Graiser wrote:
Hopefully they’re taking their time to ensure what they think will be the correct appointment, Dunsford has a lot of experience with recruiting club managers

Unless the Durnford gag is a piss poor attempt at you trolling or fishing for a bite, then were bleddy fecked if Durnford is recruiting us a manager.

Who else on the board would you suggest has the knowledge to recruit a football manager ?

Or perhaps we’ve hired a recruiting company.
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Graiser wrote:
Bob Crow wrote:
Graiser wrote:
Hopefully they’re taking their time to ensure what they think will be the correct appointment, Dunsford has a lot of experience with recruiting club managers

Unless the Durnford gag is a piss poor attempt at you trolling or fishing for a bite, then were bleddy fecked if Durnford is recruiting us a manager.

Who else on the board would you suggest has the knowledge to recruit a football manager ?

Or perhaps we’ve hired a recruiting company.

Name one successful coach he has recruited then? He did bleddy well (not) at Everton. And the only coach he ever arranged at Albion come from Target Travel. laugh

Pop to your doctor's on Monday morning and ask for some cholinesterase inhibitors Graiser.

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I just think the club is bumbling along as it has for the past seven years. The emphasis under Brent was never football first and as yet I've seen feck all to change that view. I've warned about this a lot this season, get rid of Adams and we still have a board still more interested in prawn sandwiches and pioneers than the terraces, the football has been playing second fiddle to the mankover and before anyone mentions the millions of potential let's not forget the here and now and the terraces need to be filled to actually mange to finish said mankover and field a team capable of staying in England's lowest league.
The only thing that will save us from a seriously bleak future is Hallett announcing that Brent has left and A N Other has bought his share and stuck in enough cash to get the build finished and aim for promotion next season. The sustainable model we are following will see us in the conference. FACT.
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Ryan Lowe?

Bury are in the mire financially
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Lowe wont take argo straight back up he sounds like a year on year progress type and a professinal northener to boot. ffs argo show some ambition and go for somebody who knows what there doing but  thats not going to happen Hallets, keeping the club in Brents basement for years.
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sufferedsince 68 wrote:
Lowe wont take argo straight back up he sounds like a year on year progress type and a professinal northener to boot. ffs argo show some ambition and go for somebody who knows what there doing but  thats not going to happen Hallets, keeping the club in Brents basement for years.
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Elias wrote:
Ryan Lowe?

Bury are in the mire financially

Some Argyle supporters have questioned why Lowe would leave Bury after their promotion to League Two to take over at relegated Argyle.
However, Lowe and his staff, as well as the players, have not been paid over the past couple of months due to financial problems at Bury.

He expressed some understandable frustration at the situation in an interview with The Football League Paper.
He said: “We’ve done our bit. Now it’s time for the club to find a solution. The club needs an investor or a new owner.

From the Erald.

He looks a strong possibility.

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sufferedsince 68 wrote:
Lowe wont take argo straight back up he sounds like a year on year progress type and a professinal northener to boot. ffs argo show some ambition and go for somebody who knows what there doing but  thats not going to happen Hallets, keeping the club in Brents basement for years.

Somebody like who?

Reggreen can also feel free to answer if he likes...
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