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PostSubject: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 8:40 am

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Doesn't sound that transparent.

"Majority owner Simon Hallett made the declaration in his latest Chairman’s Blog column on the club’s official website.

According to Hallett, the Pilgrims will work to improve their financial transparency but ‘without giving anything away that would damage our competitive position.’
So exact details on player transfer fees and wages, for example, are likely to be very limited, if included at all.
Hallett wrote in his blog: “We will be changing our financial year end to June, to coincide with the end of the season and to put us more in line with standard practise in the football world."
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They'll be as transparent as they want to be; releasing information that they think makes them look good and withholding that which doesn't.

The 'competition' excuse is such bull. I contacted Amnesty International about some of their administrative spending recently, and they sited 'competition' as why they couldn't release the information. Who the hell are they competing with?

Feel sorry for Adams, trying to keep a half-decent team together when your bosses won't even release funds to re-sign your best players when they only have 3 months left on their contracts!
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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 8:53 am

well if we can afford to allegedly turn down £400,000 for ladapo yet cant afford to sign mason and settled for the very cheap anderson instead while at the same time cant offer two top draw players new contracts before the end of the season something tells me we will see nothing of the sort from the club.
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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 9:06 am

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well if we can afford to allegedly turn down £400,000 for ladapo yet cant afford to sign mason and settled for the very cheap anderson instead while at the same time cant offer two top draw players new contracts before the end of the season something tells me we will see nothing of the sort from the club.

Angry we never in a month of Sundays allededly declined an offer of 400k from anyone. Christ Brent would have hired a private plan to fly Freddie to Sunderland
All spurious bullshit released to appease the dribbling avivas on Nools sanitized site
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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 9:07 am

Only a couple of weeks ago Derek request to take the squad for warm weather training abroad was turned down obviously for financial reasons.
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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 9:14 am

lol my comments now await "moderation" I hadnt posted for at least a month until around 6am today on that site whereby it worked normally but the Pig was mentioned by name
Cue now moderation

Morning Deliar morning Ian xx
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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 12:49 pm

Why would we expect players wage and contract details to be publicised ?

If I’m wrong in my thinking would all ATD members please post their earnings and property ownerships, only for transparency of course ?
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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 12:56 pm

Graiser wrote:
Why would we expect players wage and contract details to be publicised ?

If I’m wrong in my thinking would all ATD members please post their earnings and property ownerships, only for transparency of course ?

Because as fans we buy into the club. We wear the number 12 shirt according to the club and we might be more willing to invest if we thought the board were not diverting our money to building projects for instance. If you want to know about our earnings then email De Lar.
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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 1:14 pm

Graiser wrote:
Why would we expect players wage and contract details to be publicised ?

If I’m wrong in my thinking would all ATD members please post their earnings and property ownerships, only for transparency of course ?

No need to publish wage details, but I don't think it's too much to ask for transfer fees and contract lengths to be published. If companies make an investment of sell an asset the amount involved is normally known.
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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 1:49 pm

Ten thousand fans and the budget will be shit.
Only in the Village would this piss take by Mortgage man, and the gang be acceptable.
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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 1:54 pm

Earwegoagain wrote:
Graiser wrote:
Why would we expect players wage and contract details to be publicised ?

If I’m wrong in my thinking would all ATD members please post their earnings and property ownerships, only for transparency of course ?

Because as fans we buy into the club. We wear the number 12 shirt according to the club and we might be more willing to invest if we thought the board were not diverting our money to building projects for instance. If you want to know about our earnings then email De Lar.

Thought you wrote back along that you hadn’t been to HP for a few years, so your investments quite safe.
I couldn’t care less what the players personal details are but I would like to understand if we were competitive on the wages front.
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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 1:56 pm

Flat_Track_Bully wrote:
Graiser wrote:
Why would we expect players wage and contract details to be publicised ?

If I’m wrong in my thinking would all ATD members please post their earnings and property ownerships, only for transparency of course ?

No need to publish wage details, but I don't think it's too much to ask for transfer fees and contract lengths to be published. If companies make an investment of sell an asset the amount involved is normally known.

Understand and agree with all that but the OP mentioned wages which would be aligned with contracts.
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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 2:06 pm

Graiser wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
Graiser wrote:
Why would we expect players wage and contract details to be publicised ?

If I’m wrong in my thinking would all ATD members please post their earnings and property ownerships, only for transparency of course ?

Because as fans we buy into the club. We wear the number 12 shirt according to the club and we might be more willing to invest if we thought the board were not diverting our money to building projects for instance. If you want to know about our earnings then email De Lar.

Thought you wrote back along that you hadn’t been to HP for a few years, so your investments quite safe.
I couldn’t care less what the players personal details are but I would like to understand if we were competitive on the wages front.

Up until five years ago I was a season ticket holder and before that rarely missed a home game from school age. This will be the first season since I was about ten that I haven't been at all. That's forty five years odd btw. Kind of proves my point though, if I thought that my money was going to the playing squad and not Brent's multiple building schemes I'd love to go again Tbf you don't need itemised accounts to know that the football is still playing second fiddle to the mankover. I could also buy into that if the club was more honest about it. The club is not transparent and it's far from honest with the fans.
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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 2:49 pm

Same for me Earwego, on course myself for a whole season of non attendance.
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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 2:59 pm

Obvs certain things are financially sensitive, but I think there's huge improvements to be made re honesty and financial transparency with the fan base. T'would be nice to know what DA has to work with, and then maybe we could alter our expectations accordingly.(if we're told the truth in the first pace, that is!) Call me a skeptical bastardo, but I just cannot believe anything I'm told by businesses, politicians, large cooperate set-ups etc etc anymore.

The shine's gone for me. The Brent and superfans era has seen to that. As above, I'm very selective with what games I go to know. Do I miss it? Not really. There's another world out there apart from Argo.

Oh, and 2k to be a super fan 'pioneer'? Feck off. I wonder who'll be first in-line? Pig

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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 4:41 pm

akagreengull wrote:
Only a couple of weeks ago Derek request to take the squad for warm weather training abroad was turned down obviously for financial reasons.

But is that not trusting him with money, because look what he's wasted wage money on in terms of a squad.
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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 6:03 pm

All we want to know is if the budget will be in line with attendances.

If PAFC are top six attendance wise, Adams should have spending power among the best in the Division.

As it is we have play off attendances and a relegation budget
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All we want to know is if the budget will be in line with attendances.

If PAFC are top six attendance wise, Adams should have spending power among the best in the Division.

As it is we have play off attendances and a relegation budget

I can't remember the last time it was?! With a regular 10k we should be paying half decent money to bring in decent players. Not stupid money, but sensible money - the basis of running a sustainable, successful team, surely!

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The January transfer window showed how much ambition Hallet, has for the club, not alot!
The Transfer window shut and Adams was forced down the Jobcentre to sign Mansfield outcast Anderson.
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sufferedsince 68 wrote:
The January transfer window showed how much ambition Hallet, has for the club, not alot!
The Transfer window shut and Adams was forced down the Jobcentre to sign Mansfield outcast Anderson.

For 57p.

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sufferedsince 68 wrote:
The January transfer window showed how much ambition Hallet, has for the club, not alot!
The Transfer window shut and Adams was forced down the Jobcentre to sign Mansfield outcast Anderson.

For 57p.
cheers cheers cheers last year it was Paul Paton from a Jocko Jobcentre for 50p sunny
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PostSubject: Re: Simon's new age of finacial transparancy   Simon's new age of finacial transparancy EmptySat Mar 16, 2019 6:33 pm

P.O.I wrote:
Grovehill wrote:
All we want to know is if the budget will be in line with attendances.

If PAFC are top six attendance wise, Adams should have spending power among the best in the Division.

As it is we have play off attendances and a relegation budget

I can't remember the last time it was?! With a regular 10k we should be paying half decent money to bring in decent players. Not stupid money, but sensible money - the basis of running a sustainable, successful team, surely!

That's the problem you have said sensible apart from the 1% of people on here the other 99% think , spend money we haven't got.
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The very word transparency, smacks of hypocrisy when you realise the chuckle brothers come from the very industries that use creative accounting to produce the required outcomes - Janners have been the perfect pushovers!!
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The very word transparency, smacks of hypocrisy when you realise the chuckle brothers come from the very industries that use creative accounting to produce the required outcomes - Janners have been the perfect pushovers!!  


That's because they still stop in the street and point at planes! 'Uugh, was dat?'

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I smell a huge pile of bullshit from durnford .

Drip feed the loyal idiots and they will follow comes to mind.
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