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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySat Feb 02, 2019 9:51 pm

Czarcasm wrote:
Elias wrote:
Superb winner.

Match report Elias?

Bloody cold.
Not many argyle there.
Wotton must have no voice left!
Tomlin deserved to go. Three incidents in quick succession.
Playing 10 men helped.
Badblood most of second half their number 17 could have gone too.
28 quid...... Jesus.
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySat Feb 02, 2019 11:48 pm

Great win.  We deffo needed that given next weeks opponents.
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySun Feb 03, 2019 1:19 am

Angry wrote:
zyph wrote:
Goals win matches.....all the previous crap on here is totally irrelevant....who cares if it was only against 10 men.....great away win.

zzzz always one self loving arse who has to ruin a win isnt there.


good win much needed 3 points lets keep moving forward oh lets give threlkeld some minutes on the pitch cause a whole month and no appearance is starting have me thinking he is either injured or del's wasting mre money on players he wont play

It's still relevant all those shots and only 3 on target.....

3 points yes but we are only papering over the cracks
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySun Feb 03, 2019 10:44 am

Plymouth Argyle beat top six opposition in League One for the first time this season when they won won 1-0 away to Peterborough United at London Road.

Sixth-placed Peterborough had hammered the Pilgrims 5-1 at Home Park in August under their former boss Steve Evans.

The return match on Saturday was Peterborough’s first at home since Darren Ferguson had replaced Evans.

It ended in defeat for 10-man Posh, who had Lee Tomlin sent-off in first half stoppage time.

Argyle had to wait until the 88 minute for their winning goal, whih was a superb left-foot strike from Ruben Lameiras.

Here is what Pilgrims’ boss Derek Adams had to say after the game to BBC Radio’s match commentator James Law and Plymouth Live football editor Chris Errington.

JL: Derek, patience is a virtue. Would that sort of phrase sum up this afternoon? You were against 10 men for a while but you made the breakthrough and got the win.

DA: I thought that we played very well against 11 men. We matched up their diamond formation in midfield and played two up front.

We stopped them (Peterborough) playing and it allowed us to press the game and to get opportunities as well.

From that point, it was good to not allow too many opportunities or to dictate the game when the new manager is coming into their first home match since he took over.

That was probably the story of the afternoon and we then controlled possession after the sending off.

JL: You went to watch Darren Ferguson’s first match in charge on Tuesday night (a 2-2 draw at Bristol Rovers), where he played the diamond with players from a previous manager who were not used to it. How important was seeing that match in deciding how you were going to line up today?

DA: We have played against Darren a good number of times now and we have won against him in different ways.

We have either sat off the game and allowed them to have possession, today we went up against them because we didn’t want the home crowd to get excited.

We quietened them down but they had a difficult 45 minutes and then there was the sending off, with Tomlin.

He had already been booked. He was probably lucky it wasn’t a straight sending-off.

He goes off and the second half becomes a half where we have a lot of the ball, and create a number of good opportunities, but don’t take them until a fabulous bit of play from Ruben Lameiras.

JL: You seemed to have a very good view of the red card. I know your assistant Paul Wotton was quite vociferous in what he thought of what had gone on. From your point of view, did he (Tomlin) raise his hand? Is it simple as that? Did he have to go?

DA: Yes, he had to go. There was no choice. He had another incident in the first half that he took Graham Carey out the game. It was petulant and the correct decision was made.

JL: You were on top in the second half but not creating too many clear-cut chances. Did you feel like the goal was coming or was it an added bonus?

DA: We had a lot of opportunities across the face of the goal. We put a number wide.

They defended exceptionally well. They had nine behind the ball with (Ivan) Toney up front and tried to defend deep and not leave too much space.

That is always difficult to break down. We probably had 70 per cent of the ball in the second half and we eventually score with a magnificent goal. It’s a clean sheet for us and another three points.

JL: Can we talk about the goal because to me it seemed like a special goal from a special player in special form. I know it’s a cliché but you would not have wanted it to fall to anyone else I suppose?

DA: We had a lot of attacking players on the pitch today. We had (Antoni) Sarcevic, (Graham) Carey, Lameiras, (Ryan) Taylor and (Freddie) Ladapo.

Ruben is in a rich vein of form. Technically, he’s very gifted and he has been able to pull a shot out of nowhere. That’s what he can do and we are delighted he has done that today.

JL: Last season he had that trial at Oldham and came back and was amazing. Is he the sort of player that almost needs to be given a bit of tough love sometimes? When he comes good he comes really good.

DA: He is an outstanding individual and he will go on to have a very good career.

He can see passes. Sometimes he doesn’t complete as much as we would like, but today he has scored an outstanding goal.

JL: The clean sheet, you touched on. How important is that? They have not been too easy to come by earlier in the season. Is that as important to you as Ruben’s goal?

DA: It is important, but the three points was the main thing. Whatever way we can get three points we are delighted to take it.

JL: The table now, up to 16th, four points clear of the drop zone after five wins in six. Are you looking up rather than down? How do you assess the position now?

DA: We knew we were 15 points of Peterborough before the game. Now we are 12 points off them.

So we knew that we would close the gap between ourselves and them, and we would close the gap between ourselves and the teams above us.

So we have done our job today. We spoke about that before the game and the players reminded me about that after the game.

CE: To have lost in the circumstances that you did at Wycombe, how pleasing is it to bounce back with a good solid win because it was clearly very disappointing last Saturday?

DA: Disappointing, yes, because of the manner of the loss. You were obviously at the game and you will have witnessed there was an own goal and there was a lot of time-wasting across the 90 minutes, so that’s why we lost the game. No other reason.

CE: But to come back and get the win today?

DA: That’s football. I think we have shown the quality we have in the squad. We played on the front foot today, up against them, and they couldn’t play out.

We had a number of players that good responsibility to play on the front foot.

CE: Was an obvious decision having seen Peterborough play at Bristol Rovers to bring Ryan Taylor into the side and play him up front with Freddie?

DA: It was a decision I had to make. In the past we have won against Doncaster, when Darren has been manager, and we have sat off the game, and we have won today when we have played up against them.

It doesn’t really matter how we have gone about it. We have gone about it to get the result and it has worked well for us.

CE: You kept a clean sheet. Kyle Letheren made a good save from a free-kick from Toney in the first half didn’t he? That was an important moment in the game.

DA: It was a very good save. I don’t think it was a free-kick to start with. It was very soft.

We had a number of decisions in the game that we were unhappy about and we didn’t get fouls for Taylor or Ladapo, and they were given to Toney and Tomlin.

CE: From talking to some people from Peterborough, they are not happy with the way that Ryan Edwards went down after the contact was made by Lee Tomlin. Have you got any thoughts on that?

DA: Well, ask the people from Peterborough if the player that made contact is correct? And if you look at what Toney does, they would have come to a different conclusion.

CE: You had the whole of the second half against 10 men. What did you say to your side about the approach in the second half because you must have known that Peterborough were going to try and keep it as tight as possible.

DA: Yes, but we didn’t think they were going to sit in as much as they did sit in. They sat in very deep and didn’t want to venture forward as much.

They played with three at the back, five across the midfield and the one up. They just tried to stop us getting us getting in behind.

We used the width of the park well and we had a number of crosses but they had good bodies in the box.

CE: The home crowd were baying for blood in the second half, like they do when their team are down to 10 men. You took Ashley Smith-Brpwn off (in the second half). Was that a no-brainer decision when he was on a yellow card?

DA: Of course. When you go away from home that happens, where the supporters are very vocal, but they weren’t too bad.

They obviously saw the incident and they believed it was a sending off.

CE: There are a few questions I have got about the January transfer window. Do you want to take them now or can I ask you on Monday?

DA: I will not respond to any of them. The January transfer window is finished. I will do it now. There is no response to that.

It’s over and done with. We are now on the 2 of February and history is history.

CE: How do you assess the strength of your squad going into the final 15 games of the season?

DA: History is history. You can only assess yourself on the future, and we will do that.

We will continue to work hard. We are in 16 position at this moment in time and closing the gap between ourselves and the to teams.

CE: I hope you understand why I ask this but Freddie Ladapo was, I believe, the subject of a £400,000 bid from Sunderland, which the club turned down. Can you confirm that?

DA: As I said before, just two seconds ago, the January transfer window is finished and we are into February now.

CE: I didn’t know whether you would like to confirm or deny whether that was the case.

DA: I don’t do speculation as you know, and I never will do.
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySun Feb 03, 2019 10:48 am

Well it seems like Rubens off in the summer going by

"Ruben is in a rich vein of form. Technically, he’s very gifted and he has been able to pull a shot out of nowhere. That’s what he can do and we are delighted he has done that today.

JL: Last season he had that trial at Oldham and came back and was amazing. Is he the sort of player that almost needs to be given a bit of tough love sometimes? When he comes good he comes really good.

DA: He is an outstanding individual and he will go on to have a very good career"



also give Errington his due he is really getting under Del's skin a lot more now squire brents, not head honcho.Dels very touchy about the squad also looks like he's been told no freebes after Church and Patton,

E: There are a few questions I have got about the January transfer window. Do you want to take them now or can I ask you on Monday?

DA: I will not respond to any of them. The January transfer window is finished. I will do it now. There is no response to that.

It’s over and done with. We are now on the 2 of February and history is history.

CE: How do you assess the strength of your squad going into the final 15 games of the season?

DA: History is history. You can only assess yourself on the future, and we will do that.

We will continue to work hard. We are in 16 position at this moment in time and closing the gap between ourselves and the to teams.

CE: I hope you understand why I ask this but Freddie Ladapo was, I believe, the subject of a £400,000 bid from Sunderland, which the club turned down. Can you confirm that?

DA: As I said before, just two seconds ago, the January transfer window is finished and we are into February now.

CE: I didn’t know whether you would like to confirm or deny whether that was the case.

DA: I don’t do speculation as you know, and I never will do.


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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySun Feb 03, 2019 11:10 am

Yeah 100% Ruben will be gone at the end of the season. He’ll be offered way more money elsewhere. Like fleetwood or some other chippy team like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySun Feb 03, 2019 11:35 am

If the money bheys were really argo fans they would be offering him a decent contract to stay, but they wont and then in the summer when he leaves they will claim they did all to could to keep him which will be bollocks!
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySun Feb 03, 2019 11:48 am

I'm starting to feel that we might just remain in this league for another season. I wouldn't go lumping on a top half finish though.
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySun Feb 03, 2019 12:01 pm

Greenlander wrote:
I'm starting to feel that we might just remain in this league for another season. I wouldn't go lumping on a top half finish though.
Yep, Adams seems to have the squad behind him so we should be ok but its been a shit season so lessons to be learnt, will they is the question though or will it be another dozen donkeys signed in the summer and off we go again.
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySun Feb 03, 2019 12:31 pm

^ Exactly , there's nothing happening or being said to suggest it won't be another groundhog summer and we'll see the whole mess repeated again (and again).

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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySun Feb 03, 2019 12:54 pm

That was a good win in the grand scheme of things.

Still rather tight down there, but if they keep plodding away as they are then the points will tally up.

Next week Vs Pompwy should be an entertaining encounter. They have gone off the boil lately.
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySun Feb 03, 2019 12:58 pm

sufferedsince 68 wrote:
Greenlander wrote:
I'm starting to feel that we might just remain in this league for another season. I wouldn't go lumping on a top half finish though.
Yep, Adams seems to have the squad behind him so we should be ok but its been a shit season so lessons to be learnt, will they is the question though or will it be another dozen donkeys signed in the summer and off we go again.

There is no indication whatsoever from the Hallett/Bents board that there will be a radical change to the financing and objectives of PAFC, the ticking over/keep it cheap culture is here for the longer term perhaps forever, supported and abetted by nodding donkeys.
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySun Feb 03, 2019 1:30 pm

I reckon we will have at least the next season with funds being diverted to the mankover. Until they manage to finish it the refurb is keeping us poor they need to pull some fingers out.
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySun Feb 03, 2019 1:42 pm

Why does it take 25+ games each season for DA to decide what his best team is and who are his best players?
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySun Feb 03, 2019 1:58 pm

Grovehill wrote:
Why does it take 25+ games each season for DA to decide what his best team is and who are his best players?

We all know it but Adams is overly stubborn a lot of the time. Lameiras has sort of pulled Adams pants down a couple of times. The first time last year when he was shipped off to Oldham before coming back and proving his worth. Then again this season where there were strong stories of friction between the two and Ruben not being played when we were clearly crying out for his creative ability.

Player of the Season by a country mile.
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySun Feb 03, 2019 4:48 pm

Czarcasm wrote:
Grovehill wrote:
Why does it take 25+ games each season for DA to decide what his best team is and who are his best players?

We all know it but Adams is overly stubborn a lot of the time. Lameiras has sort of pulled Adams pants down a couple of times. The first time last year when he was shipped off to Oldham before coming back and proving his worth. Then again this season where there were strong stories of friction between the two and Ruben not being played when we were clearly crying out for his creative ability.

Player of the Season by a country mile.

Any other manager who took 50 games odd to get the team firing on all cylinders, Over two years, would have been sacked.

Yet we award his 6 months of indecision with an extended contract and hand the manager all the power we can,
Really surprised Brent didn't offer Del a board seat,

This is why everyone laughs at us we are so village.
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptySun Feb 03, 2019 8:03 pm

Tomlin the twat, great strike by Ruben.
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptyMon Feb 04, 2019 11:16 am

The summer will be the same as the the previous three with a big clear out.  Hallett and adams will be especially keen to move on Ruben, Freddie and Graham and replace then with god knows what so we play like a bunch of strangers and remain rooted to the bottom of what ever division we're in next season until at least January.

The directors and management of this club really are a bunch of con men.  Boycott 19/20 -  it will only be more of the same old shit.
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sufferedsince 68 wrote:
If the money bheys were really argo fans they would be offering him a decent contract to stay, but they wont and then in the summer when he leaves they will claim they did all to could to keep him which will be bollocks!

We can'tgo offering contracts those players will just sit on them. jocolor
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptyMon Feb 04, 2019 12:00 pm

Its okay we have a director of football who knows how to do his job better then our manager.

oh wait.......
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptyMon Feb 04, 2019 1:55 pm

Dels our five year plan nowadays.
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptyMon Feb 04, 2019 2:36 pm

Earwegoagain wrote:
Dels our five year plan nowadays.

Scary thought,What a Face

4 more years of throwing away half a season......
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PostSubject: Re: Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth   Peterborough 15:00 Plymouth - Page 3 EmptyMon Feb 04, 2019 5:58 pm

With all this seeing into the future can one of you chaps or chapesses give me the lottery numbers for March, April and May, many thanks.
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