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PostSubject: Adams budget league table   Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:14 am

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Clubs in the League 1 and League 2 operate within a Spending Constraint framework termed Salary Cost Management Protocol (SMCP). SCMP limits spending on player wages to a percentage of club Turnover. In League 1 clubs can spend a maximum of 60% of their turnover on wages - in League 2, the limit is 55%. There are no restrictions (in themselves) on the amount a club can lose or spend on transfer fees.

Turnover includes match-day Income, commercial Income (such as sponsorship) including hospitality/banqueting income, TV revenue and any 'merit payments' based on league position
However the Football League use a broader definition of Turnover for clubs in Leagues 1 and 2. Crucially, the FL Turnover figure includes donations from the owners to the club and injections of equity.

Loans from club owners are understandably not included in the Turnover figure as these would result in growing club debts. As a result in League 1 and League 2, an owner can therefore fund the club spending in a way that is not permitted in the Championship or Premiership.

That probably explains why the likes of Andy Pilley at Fleetwood, our opponents tomorrow, can put £10m into his club, as owner, without breaking the FFP rules.

Derek Adams has ventured that last season Argyle had the fifth lowest playing budget. That must imply that the EFL must publish compliance with the SCMP for League 1 and 2 clubs at some time during or after the season. A minority of Clubs in League 1, including Argyle, only publish abbreviated accounts (legitimately) which often exclude turnover figures. In fact Argyle are perhaps the only Club that publish their accounts as a 31st December year end as opposed to a season's end in May or June. This was because of the link to the rest of James Brent's companies which had the same accounting date.

Perhaps it is an appropriate time for the Club to re-evaluate its accounting practices and have a end of season accounting date which puts it in line with all the other EFL clubs. Perhaps more information other than that legally required for abbreviated accounts could also be published. Most other League 1 clubs do, including wages and turnover figures to enable proper comparisons albeit historic.

Perhaps a question for Simon Hallett at the Fans Forum on on 6th December?

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PostSubject: Re: Adams budget league table   Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:20 am

Fifth lowest budget dispite over ten thousand fans per game !! year on year bullshit lapped up by the gratefuls cheers cheers cheers[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]'sthemoneygone?
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PostSubject: Re: Adams budget league table   Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:25 am

Confirms what we all pretty much new and the gratefuls have been keen to deny under the Brentmare.
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PostSubject: Re: Adams budget league table   Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:36 am

Les Miserable wrote:
Confirms what we all pretty much new and the gratefuls have been keen to deny under the Brentmare.
Yep bhey, year on year pisstake on the playing budget which was predictably lapped up by the dribblers.
I wonder how much Brent made out of his involvement with Argo ?
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PostSubject: Re: Adams budget league table   Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:00 am

sufferedsince 68 wrote:
Les Miserable wrote:
Confirms what we all pretty much new and the gratefuls have been keen to deny under the Brentmare.
Yep bhey, year on year pisstake on the playing budget which was predictably lapped up by the dribblers.
I wonder how much Brent made out of his involvement with Argo ?

Probably never get to the bottom of his 'pass the parcel' group accounting - always rabbit warrens for a reason!!
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PostSubject: Re: Adams budget league table   Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:13 am

Top 5 attendances bottom 5 budget.....We're Plimuff Argo, we're doin our best jocolor geek
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PostSubject: Re: Adams budget league table   Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:33 am

It's almost as if SMCP/FFP has been designed at our level to protect, give a boost it you prefer, to proper big clubs that find themselves in a bit of a jam. Complete mess-ups ala Portsmouth take a bit longer but still works for them in the end.

There aren't that many sugar barons or fools spunking money away on lower league football dreams to prevent some sort of natural order occuring over time. Even allowing for the stars aligning, finding a couple of wee gems, some luck with transfers or good ol' fashioned coaching enabling a diddy club to rise up there is a system in place whereby five figure gates give Argyle an advantage over a huge swathe of the division. Even if the so-called Argyle premium paid for enticing players west actually exists it can't level it out that much.

Those of us more advanced in years will see us as a club that bounce between the middle divisions, there will soon be a generation combined with a swathe of villagers that will be happy with us bing-bonging back and forth through the bottom two.

That we seem incapable or unwilling of doing better is quite frankly embarrassing. Or rubbish. Embarassing, rubbish and disgraceful. It's all of them.

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PostSubject: Re: Adams budget league table   Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:26 pm

Nools had his feathers ruffled by GC's reappearance,

"I've never understood this anoraky 'We want to see the full accounts' style of supporting the club.

It seems as if the 'intelligentia' are hung up about it."

Well have no transparency here thank you! Fecking turncoat, when Brent slithered up we were all promised more transparency and Jimmy was hailed as a different kind of owner. It then turned out that Brent was not that kind of owner at all so the narrative has changed to "trust in Brent" and question nothing or you'll be portrayed as a freak. As GC points out Hallett has a chance to change things now. One thing he could change is Brents December 31 accounting date, which was used to coincide with Brents other businesses, Hallett could change that to end of season which would make the accounts make more sense it will be telling whether he does or not.
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PostSubject: Re: Adams budget league table   Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:23 pm

Just confirms the ownership choose not to support the club financially to any great degree.

It's sad when TUFC, three leagues lower probably get more money from their owner than PAFC do
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PostSubject: Re: Adams budget league table   Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:59 pm

Les Miserable wrote:
Top 5 attendances bottom 5 budget.....We're Plimuff Argo, we're doin our best jocolor geek
Yep it stinks, but at least we got a club to support and Jimmy's always very pleasant to the plebs. cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers ld ld ld
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PostSubject: Re: Adams budget league table   Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:03 pm

sufferedsince 68 wrote:
Les Miserable wrote:
Top 5 attendances bottom 5 budget.....We're Plimuff Argo, we're doin our best jocolor geek
Yep it stinks, but at least we got a club to support and Jimmy's always very pleasant to the plebs. cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers ld ld ld

his daughters got some nice ponies as well .
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PostSubject: Re: Adams budget league table   Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:05 pm

Grovehill wrote:
Just confirms the ownership choose not to support the club financially to any great degree.

It's sad when TUFC, three leagues lower probably get more money from their owner than PAFC do

Careful we will be told to piss off and support the turks next.....
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