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PostSubject: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:12 pm

From argyle facebook account, sorry if this has already been picked up.


It is not even Advent yet, never mind Christmas, but Derek Adams’ mind is already set on the January Sales.

“Planning is in place. We have to identify players, which we have done, but it comes with players who have got clubs and it all takes time. We have obviously got players we need to move out, as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:16 pm

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Plymouth Argyle's directors are yet to discuss whether they are prepared to increase the club's budget for the January transfer window.
However, chairman Simon Hallett admitted he would welcome any proposals from manager Derek Adams about changes to it.

Of course this all assumes DA will still be manager in January, just envisaging the scenario if Argo lose the next five games or more, or are well adrift at the bottom in a months time (both scenarios possible on current form).
Five year contract and director of football, that's a big statement of faith.
Interesting times.
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:15 pm

Should we expect to see a big improvement with new signings in January?  I don't think DA has a brilliant recruitment record.

There's certainly been a high turnover of players during his time, but of the player's he's signed who has gone on to better things? Bradley Or is even a certain starter in the current first team? Carey

Other than those, I think it's mostly been a case of making up the numbers- one lad even ended up getting relegated from the National League with Torquay!

If I was signing the cheques DA isn't the man I'd trust to spend money well.

And before anyone says he's had to shop in the football equivelant of Lidl, I'll just say Frio, Coughlan Larieu Norris Capaldi etc
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:39 pm

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Should we expect to see a big improvement with new signings in January?  I don't think DA has a brilliant recruitment record.

There's certainly been a high turnover of players during his time, but of the player's he's signed who has gone on to better things? Bradley Or is even a certain starter in the current first team? Carey

Other than those, I think it's mostly been a case of making up the numbers- one lad even ended up getting relegated from the National League with Torquay!

If I was signing the cheques DA isn't the man I'd trust to spend money well.

And before anyone says he's had to shop in the football equivelant of Lidl, I'll just say Frio, Coughlan Larieu Norris Capaldi etc


that 100% , can't add anymore to that,
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:42 am

Grovehill wrote:
Should we expect to see a big improvement with new signings in January?  I don't think DA has a brilliant recruitment record.

There's certainly been a high turnover of players during his time, but of the player's he's signed who has gone on to better things? Bradley Or is even a certain starter in the current first team? Carey

Other than those, I think it's mostly been a case of making up the numbers- one lad even ended up getting relegated from the National League with Torquay!

If I was signing the cheques DA isn't the man I'd trust to spend money well.

And before anyone says he's had to shop in the football equivelant of Lidl, I'll just say Frio, Coughlan Larieu Norris Capaldi etc

I expect triple t and gaffer will be on shortly to remind you of the 50% or so that were any good. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:36 am

50%?
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:23 am

Fifty percent of feck all is feck all.
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:14 pm

Indeed.
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:28 pm

Well lets work that out then. Heres the list of transfers and loans made by Adams

Transfers in

Jake Jervis
Gary Sawyer
Gregg Wylde
Graham Carey
Josh Simpson
Vincent Dorel
Nauris Bulvītis
Ryan Donaldson
David Goodwillie
Gary Miller
Karleigh Osborne
Jordan Slew
Connor Smith
Yann Songo'o
Jimmy Spencer
Oscar Threlkeld
Sonny Bradley
David Ijaha
David Fox
Marc McCallum
Jakub Sokolík
Nathan Blissett
Antoni Sarcevic
Ryan Taylor
Lionel Ainsworth
Ryan Edwards
Joel Grant
Rúben Lameiras
Jamie Ness
Aaron Taylor-Sinclair
Robert te Loeke
Gregg Wylde
Kyle Letheren
Toumani Diagouraga
Simon Church
Paul Paton
Lionel Ainsworth
Ryan Edwards
Joel Grant
Rúben Lameiras
Jamie Ness
Aaron Taylor-Sinclair
Robert te Loeke
Kyle Letheren
Toumani Diagouraga
Simon Church
Paul Paton
Niall Canavan
Calum Dyson
Peter Grant
Connor Grant
Tafari Moore
Ashley Smith Brown
Freddie Ladapo
Joe Riley
Scott Wootton



Loans
Craig Tanner
Arnold Garita
Matty Kennedy
Hiram Boateng
Christian Walton
Luke Croll
Jordon Forster
Daniel Nardiello
Jordan Houghton
Jamille Matt
Nadir Çiftçi
Remi Matthews
Will Mannion
Kelle Roos
Zak Vyner
Moses Makasi
Harry Burgoyne
Matt Macey
Stuart O'Keefe


Last edited by Jethro on Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:50 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : I put two in twice my bad)
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:37 pm

Transfers in

Jake Jervis Good
Gary Sawyer Good
Gregg Wylde Bad
Graham Carey Good
Josh Simpson Bad
Vincent Dorel only played once unfair to rate
Nauris Bulvītis bad
Ryan Donaldson not good but not bad
David Goodwillie shocking
Gary Miller Bad
Karleigh Osborne bad
Jordan Slew good
Connor Smith bad
Yann Songo'o good in midfield by not CB
Jimmy Spencer ok
Oscar Threlkeld good
Sonny Bradley good
David Ijaha shocking
David Fox good
Marc McCallum unfair to comment
Jakub Sokolík not the best but not the worst
Nathan Blissett shocking
Antoni Sarcevic good
Ryan Taylor good
Lionel Ainsworth not sure what he brings apart from taking a wage
Ryan Edwards good
Joel Grant good
Rúben Lameiras good
Jamie Ness   injury prone but alright
Aaron Taylor-Sinclair okay better then what we have now
Robert te Loeke not fair to comment
Gregg Wylde shocking
Kyle Letheren good
Toumani Diagouraga good
Simon Church shocking waste of money
Paul Paton see above
Niall Canavan shocking
Calum Dyson why sign him not to play him
Peter Grant better of a bad bunch
Connor Grant not sure yet
Tafari Moore not sure
Ashley Smith Brown not looking good
Freddie Ladapo kicking on slightly
Joe Riley not sure
Scott Wootton not sure



Loans
Craig Tanner okay but not great
Arnold Garita see above
Matty Kennedy good
Hiram Boateng good
Christian Walton good
Luke Croll don't remember him
Jordon Forster good
Daniel Nardiello why did we sign him in the first place
Jordan Houghton alright
Jamille Matt okay
Nadir Çiftçi shite
Remi Matthews good
Will Mannion did a job
Kelle Roos did a job

Zak Vyner good
Moses Makasi okay
Harry Burgoyne not fair to say
Matt Macey not looking too good
Stuart O'Keefe shit

thats my opinion,

So 63 signings including loans
only about 28 were /are any good
very high turnover as well of players
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:43 pm

Fcuk a duck - that is a muvver load!!
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:09 pm

You have Wylde down twice, bad and shocking I think just crap would cover it.
Looks like the list will expand in January, when Derek the unsackable takes the obligatory trip north of the border.
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:11 pm

Wouldn't agree about Wylde, him and Carey were a great partnership in their first season. It's a shame he hasn't found that form since and should be gone but he was initially a success. Other than that it's a shitload of pound land pros.
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:50 pm

akagreengull wrote:
You have Wylde down twice, bad and shocking I think just crap would cover it.
Looks like the list will expand in January, when Derek the unsackable takes the obligatory trip north of the border.

yeah just realised I messed a couple up
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:51 pm

Earwegoagain wrote:
Wouldn't agree about Wylde, him and Carey were a great partnership in their first season. It's a shame he hasn't found that form since and should be gone but he was initially a success. Other than that it's a shitload of pound land pros.

Basing it on the fact he can't cross a ball to save his life.
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:10 pm

Good piece of work mate, don't think I would have willpower to look at all those dross signings.
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:11 pm

I've gone through that list on the basis of being decent, shit or unmemorable and come to the conclusion that 2/3rds of Adams transfers have been useless. It doesn't inpsire much confidence.
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:40 pm

To be fair, most people on that list have contributed something to the cause during their time here. Not a lot as far as some are concerned though.

That is a lot of players, and probably goes a long way to explain why our 'progress' has been limited. Along with the fact I'd never heard of most of them before they came here - hardly household names.
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:25 pm

To be fair to Adams all of those were signed under the Brent regime where our budget was woefully weak compared to mighty clubs like Fleetwood who we have no right to be competing against financially and it remains a fact that if you pay peanuts you should only expect to get monkeys.

We should be applauding Adams for getting any players that are any good at all and then applauding some more for getting a team of such wayward and mediocre talents promoted despite the financial handicap he has endured all the way through.
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:36 pm

akagreengull wrote:
Good piece of work mate, don't think I would have willpower to look at all those dross signings.

I was wasting time on hold to some idiots on the phone.
But yeah there was some names I'd forgotten about they was that bad
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:21 pm

If you intend stating facts then at least be accurate and avoid putting names on 2 or 3 times Question
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:25 pm

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If you intend stating facts then at least be accurate and avoid putting names on 2 or 3 times Question


Calm yourself cupcake. It's not a 5 minute task putting that together.

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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:10 am

Jethro wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
Wouldn't agree about Wylde, him and Carey were a great partnership in their first season. It's a shame he hasn't found that form since and should be gone but he was initially a success. Other than that it's a shitload of pound land pros.

Basing it on the fact he can't cross a ball to save his life.

Except for in his first season he scored about seven goals and assisted nearly all of Careys. Taken from poor memory but not far out I'd wager.
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PostSubject: Re: Adams Transfer update sort of.    Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:13 pm

Jethro wrote:
Transfers in

Jake Jervis Good
Gary Sawyer Good
Gregg Wylde Bad
Graham Carey Good
Josh Simpson Bad
Vincent Dorel only played once unfair to rate
Nauris Bulvītis bad
Ryan Donaldson not good but not bad
David Goodwillie shocking
Gary Miller Bad
Karleigh Osborne bad
Jordan Slew good
Connor Smith bad
Yann Songo'o good in midfield by not CB
Jimmy Spencer ok
Oscar Threlkeld good
Sonny Bradley good
David Ijaha shocking
David Fox good
Marc McCallum unfair to comment
Jakub Sokolík not the best but not the worst
Nathan Blissett shocking
Antoni Sarcevic good
Ryan Taylor good
Lionel Ainsworth not sure what he brings apart from taking a wage
Ryan Edwards good
Joel Grant good
Rúben Lameiras good
Jamie Ness   injury prone but alright
Aaron Taylor-Sinclair okay better then what we have now
Robert te Loeke not fair to comment
Gregg Wylde shocking
Kyle Letheren good
Toumani Diagouraga good
Simon Church shocking waste of money
Paul Paton see above
Niall Canavan shocking
Calum Dyson why sign him not to play him
Peter Grant better of a bad bunch
Connor Grant not sure yet
Tafari Moore not sure
Ashley Smith Brown not looking good
Freddie Ladapo kicking on slightly
Joe Riley not sure
Scott Wootton not sure  



Loans
Craig Tanner okay but not great
Arnold Garita see above
Matty Kennedy good
Hiram Boateng good
Christian Walton good
Luke Croll don't remember him
Jordon Forster good
Daniel Nardiello why did we sign him in the first place
Jordan Houghton alright
Jamille Matt okay
Nadir Çiftçi shite
Remi Matthews good
Will Mannion did a job
Kelle Roos did a job

Zak Vyner good
Moses Makasi okay
Harry Burgoyne not fair to say
Matt Macey not looking too good
Stuart O'Keefe shit

thats my opinion,

So 63 signings including loans
only about 28 were /are any good
very high turnover as well of players
Its like a who's who of the worst footballers in the country, Ten and a half thousand fans and they just sign shite !! gawd bless you Jimmy. lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!
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