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PostSubject: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:16 am

New student accomodation building nomated for 2018 Carbuncle Cup an 'award' that recognises shit architecture, previously by Drake Circus in 2006

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The 23 storey building which is the tallest in the South West ensures that the "soulless incoherence that often characterises much of central Plymouth’s post-war reconstruction has been recycled for another generation. "
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:24 pm

hope it wins, it truly is an eyeshore amongst a facade of shite that this city has had thrust apon them.
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:00 pm

Looks a fecks site better than the brutalist YMCA IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:04 pm

whereas I much preferred the look of the YMCA, All very subjective.
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:22 pm

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hope it wins, it truly is an eyeshore amongst a facade of shite that this city has had thrust apon them.

Problem is where its located. You won't be able to avoid it. HAd to be student accomodation as well didn't it.
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:32 pm

Pretty sure it's a mixture of student and residential. Probably a few high end penthouses on top.
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:44 pm

Thought that looked a bit of a eyesore when I was in plymouth last, walking down into Town from North Road, well more brought to my attention by the fact it looks lopsided
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:01 pm

I found myself walking down Alma Rd just prior to sunrise one day last week. Beckley Point was obviously lit up. I thought it looked great. Not a ‘Plymouth-type’ building at all...which by and large is a good thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:14 pm

The gnashing of teeth on the Erold comments section is laughable and sadly predictable.

I'm sure Mufferlonions are stuck in some 1970's timewarp.

"bleddy orrible" "we don't want that sort of building in Plymuff" " It's an eyesore" "Plymuff is ruined"

I think it looks great. it's progressive, modern, a huge improvement on what was there before and above all, a huge investment.

More of the same please - Muff really needs to move out of the 17th century and into the 21st.

Just my opinion of course, and I don't even live in the Muff! Laughing


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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:41 pm

least it draws your eyes away from the civic centre I guess,

i'l give it a second opinion tomorrw
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:50 pm

It spoils my sea view from the Lyndy
Seriously You can see it from my seat in the Lyndy
You can see the top of it lit up against Wycombe the other night
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:07 pm

Earwegoagain wrote:
Pretty sure it's a mixture of student and residential. Probably a few high end penthouses on top.

It would make sense if they were a mix of student and residential, no way they would fill it with just students. rent in that place is going to be sky high
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:49 pm

looked earlier rent for a room in a shared flat is £140 a week, a studio flat £160 rest above that is all sold out,
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:08 pm

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looked earlier rent for a room in a shared flat is £140 a week, a studio flat £160 rest above that is all sold out,

but they dont include gas/electricty/internet tv licence so your looking at £600+ a month


may aswell rent a whole flat for that.
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:46 pm

Angry wrote:
Jethro wrote:
looked earlier rent for a room in a shared flat is £140 a week, a studio flat £160 rest above that is all sold out,

but they dont include gas/electricty/internet tv licence  so your looking at £600+ a month


may aswell rent a whole flat for that.

From the blurb
YOUR RENT WILL INCLUDE…
Your water, gas and electric costs
As much central heating as you want (a lifesaver by the sea!)
Super-quick broadband
TV (in the kitchen space if you’re in a shared flat)
Access to the on-site laundry room (no lugging heavy bags down the street!)
24-hour security service
Fast maintenance if you ever need it
Free postal service
All you need to worry about is buying your food, drinks, toiletries, clothes, etc. Otherwise we’ve got you covered
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:32 pm

I don’t think it looks too bad as new buildings go. Just another opportunity to kick downtrodden Plymouth
If it was built somewhere trendy like Exeter they’d be shouting how fkin wonderful & cutting edge it is.
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:15 pm

Czarcasm wrote:
I found myself walking down Alma Rd just prior to sunrise one day last week. Beckley Point was obviously lit up. I thought it looked great. Not a ‘Plymouth-type’ building at all...which by and large is a good thing.

I think it looks a lot better in the dark, when it's lit up. The lighting design is decent (although I'm sure I noticed that a few lamps have failed already?)

In the daylight, it's not good. Although I thought it was better than some of the other nominations that didn't make the shortlist. The all-orange house was bloody horrible!

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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:32 pm

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Czarcasm wrote:
I found myself walking down Alma Rd just prior to sunrise one day last week. Beckley Point was obviously lit up. I thought it looked great. Not a ‘Plymouth-type’ building at all...which by and large is a good thing.

I think it looks a lot better in the dark, when it's lit up. The lighting design is decent (although I'm sure I noticed that a few lamps have failed already?)

In the daylight, it's not good. Although I thought it was better than some of the other nominations that didn't make the shortlist. The all-orange house was bloody horrible!

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Yep, that’s sort of the point I was making. At dawn with clear skies behind and the tower still lit up and the building silhouetted, it looks fookin nice.

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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:14 pm

IMO It looks shite.

Edited to add, but what do I know, I like the Civic Centre and Victorian stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:25 pm

Czarcasm wrote:
MikeWN wrote:
Czarcasm wrote:
I found myself walking down Alma Rd just prior to sunrise one day last week. Beckley Point was obviously lit up. I thought it looked great. Not a ‘Plymouth-type’ building at all...which by and large is a good thing.

I think it looks a lot better in the dark, when it's lit up. The lighting design is decent (although I'm sure I noticed that a few lamps have failed already?)

In the daylight, it's not good. Although I thought it was better than some of the other nominations that didn't make the shortlist. The all-orange house was bloody horrible!

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Yep, that’s sort of the point I was making. At dawn with clear skies behind and the tower still lit up and the building silhouetted, it looks fookin nice.


In my experience everything looks FOOKIN nice at that time of day. clown
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:12 pm

I had a look at it earlier walking back to the station, from some sides it looks alright from others tad iffy seen worse though
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:03 am

Have I just made this up, or did I read somewhere that the MoneyCentre building ( by Drake Circus there) was going going to be bulldozed and a new ‘tallest tower in Plymouth’ was planned for there? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:21 am

Czarcasm wrote:
Have I just made this up, or did I read somewhere that the MoneyCentre building ( by Drake Circus there) was going going to be bulldozed and a new ‘tallest tower in Plymouth’ was planned for there? scratch

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Artsist render of the plan to demolish Corburg House (Money Centre) and replace with this.........................a 21 story student accommodation block. Planning permission has already been granted.

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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:56 am

More student accommodation does Plymouth really need it as well as what's being built in durrys old building
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PostSubject: Re: Beckley Point nomimated for worst building of the year   Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:18 pm

There was a programme about Plymouth on Radio 4 one day this week: part of a series about 'hot spots', it looked at why we're the city with the highest rate of personal insolvency. An interesting listen (mostly to do with there being so few decent jobs, btw).

Anyway ... Somebody on this programme referred to Plymouth as 'the city that turned its back on the sea' and I've kept thinking about that ever since, because I think she got it bang on. It's getting more and more difficult to see the sea from anywhere, what with Beckley Point (which I can kind of live with, although I too liked the old YMCA building), the new cinema on Bretonside and all the other tall buildings planned and completed, especially in and around the city centre. Most seaside places you can tell you're near the water, even if you can't see it. In Plymouth, there were loads of places you could see it from as you got on with your life, and it was a presence pretty much wherever you were, but it really doesn't feel like that any more.
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