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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 12:23 am

Bit of insurance for the shyster as well he ain’t. Silly no doubt that’s where the negotiations will start at 4 years worth of compo for del bhey
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 7:02 am

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Let's be honest, a managers contract is pretty worthless. If a club want Del and he wants to go chances are he'll go.
Absolutely agree, Gary Rowett had a three year contract at Derby and did well - yesterday took over at Stoke.
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 7:24 am

Adams seems to be taking over rather a lot of duties. 5 years though does seem on paper to be a decent contract to say the least.
When he goes decent compensation you'd imagine but if Brent can see that outcome why doesnt he do the same with the better players contracts
Bradley is about to go for certain just a matter of to whom and could have been totally avoided
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 8:22 am

Where the feck are the confirmations of renewals of the 7 offered contracts?

Surely more than 2/9 of our players want to be here???
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 9:18 am

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As part of the new deal, Derek will become the Pilgrims’ Head of Football, with an overarching club-wide football development role.

On the face of it, good news

This suggests to me that Jimmy won't be replacing Starnes directly and Dezza will be more akin to a DoF, I expect EeeBleedsGreen will have more input in to the coaching. Hopefully with Starnes gone we will see an end to theseself defeating 1 year deals
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 10:30 am

Credit where it’s due. This is, by a distance, the most forward thinking move the Brent hierarchy have ever put together. A couple of caveats though....

We’ve effectively got ourselves into a Paul Tisdale situation whereby if it ever does go majorly pear-shaped, there’s no way in the world Brent will get rid. The other issue being Adams now officially overseeing EVERYTHING football based. That could throw up some unnecessary distractions for him.

Brent is fond of amalgamating roles though to cut costs.
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 11:04 am

Adams claims he chooses the players' contracts lengths and terms, not Starnes or Brent.
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 11:22 am

Czarcasm wrote:
Credit where it’s due. This is, by a distance, the most forward thinking move the Brent hierarchy have ever put together. A couple of caveats though....

We’ve effectively got ourselves into a Paul Tisdale situation whereby if it ever does go majorly pear-shaped, there’s no way in the world Brent will get rid. The other issue being Adams now officially overseeing EVERYTHING football based. That could throw up some unnecessary distractions for him.

Brent is fond of amalgamating roles though to cut costs.

I read it as Adams wanting the roles amalgamated, or at least it being made official.

Fair point about the Tisdale type risk but we can’t have it both ways. A 5 year deal for a manager who has already proved he can bring success can only be broadly a good thing...and it does seem Adams is committed to the cause. If his head gets turned then Argyle get decent financial compensation.
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 11:37 am

Maybe Adams like the more enlightened amongst the fanbase can see the huge potential for PAFC, and is secretly hoping a proper owner will come in and achieve footballing success.
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 12:10 pm

Innocent Egbunike wrote:
Czarcasm wrote:
Credit where it’s due. This is, by a distance, the most forward thinking move the Brent hierarchy have ever put together. A couple of caveats though....

We’ve effectively got ourselves into a Paul Tisdale situation whereby if it ever does go majorly pear-shaped, there’s no way in the world Brent will get rid. The other issue being Adams now officially overseeing EVERYTHING football based. That could throw up some unnecessary distractions for him.

Brent is fond of amalgamating roles though to cut costs.

I read it as Adams wanting the roles amalgamated, or at least it being made official.

Fair point about the Tisdale type risk but we can’t have it both ways. A 5 year deal for a manager who has already proved he can bring success can only be broadly a good thing...and it does seem Adams is committed to the cause. If his head gets turned then Argyle get decent financial compensation.

Brent gets decent financial compensation.
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 12:49 pm

We could give Adams a twenty year contract but unless Brent gives him realistic funds to build a team we will be going nowhere fast. We haven't even got eleven players at present.
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 12:52 pm

Indeed AL just supposing Derek pulls off some kind of footballing miracle with shit resources this season.
And a bigger club say QPR come in for him bingo - the shyster has BIG compensation.
I say shyster of course because not a lot of income seems to head towards the footballing pot.
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 3:19 pm

Obviously DA not happy with the academy and the lack of first team material coming through.
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 6:32 pm

Didn't Sturrock sign a new contract just before he went to Southampton?
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 6:43 pm

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Didn't Sturrock sign a new contract just before he went to Southampton?

indeed he did.

We shouldn't fool ourselves that just because Del has signed this new 5 year deal that it will stop him leaving for another club if they come knocking. Contracts mean shit in todays football world.
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 6:49 pm

Didn't Gary Rowett Sign a new deal with Derby then soon as stoke job came up pissed off to them, contracts mean nothing these days
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 8:26 pm

Maybe at last we are going to develop something more than short term strategy?

One of the effects of admin was that Guilfoyle slashed away at everything apart from that which was absolutely necessary to keep the club alive. Since then Brent has slashed some more.

While that may make us lean and mean it does not allow for more than a hand-to-mouth existence and there is no corporate structure or infra-structure. This makes us heavily reliant on individuals and that can only be bad thing because we should never be too reliant on any one person.

So on a wider corporate level it starts to make sense except that all of our eggs are now in an Adams-shaped basket and if we ever need to replace him then we need to employ rather more than just a typical football manager and that prunes the list of applicants somewhat.

It'll be interesting to see how Adams structures the development of youth players because we have only ever had sporadic success from our past programmes and this appears to be the start of the most serious root-and-branch review of that since the Warnock/McCauley axis established PAST & DT.
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 8:38 pm

Earwegoagain wrote:
Graiser wrote:
Those will be the best signings of the close season

At this rate they will all need to be in the starting eleven to field a team.

Have a little faith, I think we’re in for a few nice surprises
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 8:44 pm

Jethro wrote:
Didn't  Gary Rowett Sign a new deal with  Derby then soon as stoke job came up pissed off to them, contracts mean nothing these days

FFP issues at Derby and at least doubling his salary has helped, Manager’s shouldn’t complain about players chasing the shilling when they do exactly the same
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Wed May 23, 2018 11:55 pm

Earwegoagain wrote:
We could give Adams a twenty year contract but unless Brent gives him realistic funds to build a team we will be going nowhere fast. We haven't even got eleven players at present.
Nor did we have at this stage 2 seasons back and guess what .... promotion and almost play-offs. Are you always so miserable? cheers
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Thu May 24, 2018 12:23 am

Guess what, we kick off the new season in Division Three, IMO a better playing budget would have 'bought' us promotion.
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Thu May 24, 2018 8:51 am

tigertony wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
We could give Adams a twenty year contract but unless Brent gives him realistic funds to build a team we will be going nowhere fast. We haven't even got eleven players at present.
Nor did we have at this stage 2 seasons back and guess what .... promotion and almost play-offs. Are you always so miserable? cheers

After a hopeless start where 11 virtual strangers shipped 3 unanswered goals to Luton. Imagine where we would have been had the players hit the ground running this season rather than the start we had.
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Thu May 24, 2018 10:19 am

tigertony wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
We could give Adams a twenty year contract but unless Brent gives him realistic funds to build a team we will be going nowhere fast. We haven't even got eleven players at present.
Nor did we have at this stage 2 seasons back and guess what .... promotion and almost play-offs. Are you always so miserable? cheers

Not miserable at all just realistic. It may be worth looking at what I have said about our chances over the last seven years I haven't been far wrong about much. As for Argyle being unable to field a full team at present that is a fact.
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Thu May 24, 2018 11:12 am

Hugh Watt wrote:
Baggo wrote:
As part of the new deal, Derek will become the Pilgrims’ Head of Football, with an overarching club-wide football development role.

On the face of it, good news

This suggests to me that Jimmy won't be replacing Starnes directly and Dezza will be more akin to a DoF, I expect EeeBleedsGreen will have more input in to the coaching. Hopefully with Starnes gone we will see an end to theseself defeating 1 year deals




The short term contract lark was a terrible idea and I hope they get consigned to the bin.

Adams likes it down here and I am glad he is staying. I know he has his faults, but in his time here he has not done too bad.

Just hope he can bring in some decent-ish players once the transfer activity starts. A good goalkeeper would be first on the list.
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PostSubject: Re: New Contracts for Dezza and Co   Fri May 25, 2018 9:03 am

Les Miserable wrote:
Let's be honest, a managers contract is pretty worthless. If a club want Del and he wants to go chances are he'll go.

Glad some cynics are left on here. One thing Brent can see is an asset he can monetarize, the £ signs will be flashing before his eyes if anybody comes calling.
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