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PostSubject: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:50 pm

Chris Errington in the Herald on talking about the various reasons players are put off coming to Argyle or don't stay in the case of Toums is:

'With no airport in the city anymore, plus poor rail and road connections, Plymouth is isolated from the rest of the country.'

When are we as a region going to start electing people who will push infrastructure in Devon and Cornwall?

All I've heard over the decades is hot air coming from our MPs. And it's normally blue or golden air.

This issue will continue to hold back Argyle.

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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:00 pm

Its ok we have 20 tower blocks for students and not alot else here just be grateful.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:24 pm

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Chris Errington in the Herald on talking about the various reasons players are put off coming to Argyle or don't stay in the case of Toums is:

'With no airport in the city anymore, plus poor rail and road connections, Plymouth is isolated from the rest of the country.'

When are we as a region going to start electing people who will push infrastructure in Devon and Cornwall?

All I've heard over the decades is hot air coming from our MPs. And it's normally blue or golden air.

This issue will continue to hold back Argyle.

No

I think we all know what is holding back Argyle right now!
Just wish Errorington would feck off just like the shyster. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:33 pm

If you pay, they will come....
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:56 pm

Can't blame location when you're offering quality players like Toums insulting contract extensions until the end of the season.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:22 pm

I'm sure the location thing does make a difference - sometimes - but I'm far from convinced it is the unassailable obstacle it is often painted as.

It's a handy excuse that stands up to much objection because we are undeniably far away from just about everywhere and must be true some of the time.

It makes me wonder how we ever signed anybody the way it is trotted out as a catch all with such regularity though; it certainly doesn't stack up for me regarding Diagouraga though. Despite what he says himself Fleetwood is hardly handy for Leeds but the location thing is leapt upon as being kosher and the remark in the Herald about their offer being comfortably bigger than ours then gets conveniently parked.

Nope. I'm not having it. It may be partly true and it may be a factor but it is not the be all and end all.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:16 pm

Just the same old piss poor excuse that has been used for years.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:41 pm

Railway can be washed away to the outside world.

City of a quarter of a million have to depend on Exeter or Newquay for air flight.

Motorways...you must be joking.....not allowed.

How has Plymouth ever attracted employment...that's why so many moved to London.

Ok if you want to sail to Spain.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:35 pm

Zyph, summed up all the reasons why I moved away. No opportunities
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:35 pm

zyph wrote:
Railway can be washed away to the outside world.

City of a quarter of a million have to depend on Exeter or Newquay for air flight.

Motorways...you must be joking.....not allowed.

How has Plymouth ever attracted employment...that's why so many moved to London.

Ok if you want to sail to Spain.

Everything you say is true.

Which begs the question why have tHE people of plymouth allowed their city to turn to shit over the years post ww2.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:40 pm

Too many cars, too many planes, too many pathetic excuses for not attracting players as Pat said If you pay they will come........
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:56 pm

Angry wrote:
zyph wrote:
Railway can be washed away to the outside world.

City of a quarter of a million have to depend on Exeter or Newquay for air flight.

Motorways...you must be joking.....not allowed.

How has Plymouth ever attracted employment...that's why so many moved to London.

Ok if you want to sail to Spain.

Everything you say is true.

Which begs the question why have tHE people of plymouth allowed their city to turn to shit over the years post ww2.

Who knows? The city has kept voting Tories and Lib Dems for decades and decades and wondering why nothing changes. At least Luke Pollard seems to always raise issues in Parliament related to Plymouth, unlike the others.

I think fundamentally Westminster will never invest here, we've got to try and create our own opportunities and encourage entrepreneurial practices, invest in culture, encourage Uni students to stay in the city and start businesses etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:59 pm

Argyle_Union wrote:
Angry wrote:
zyph wrote:
Railway can be washed away to the outside world.

City of a quarter of a million have to depend on Exeter or Newquay for air flight.

Motorways...you must be joking.....not allowed.

How has Plymouth ever attracted employment...that's why so many moved to London.

Ok if you want to sail to Spain.

Everything you say is true.

Which begs the question why have tHE people of plymouth allowed their city to turn to shit over the years post ww2.

Who knows? The city has kept voting Tories and Lib Dems for decades and decades and wondering why nothing changes. At least Luke Pollard seems to always raise issues in Parliament related to Plymouth, unlike the others.

I think fundamentally Westminster will never invest here, we've got to try and create our own opportunities and encourage entrepreneurial practices, invest in culture, encourage Uni students to stay in the city and start businesses etc.

Labour have fecked this city over just as much over the years.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:13 pm

Angry wrote:
Argyle_Union wrote:
Angry wrote:
zyph wrote:
Railway can be washed away to the outside world.

City of a quarter of a million have to depend on Exeter or Newquay for air flight.

Motorways...you must be joking.....not allowed.

How has Plymouth ever attracted employment...that's why so many moved to London.

Ok if you want to sail to Spain.

Everything you say is true.

Which begs the question why have tHE people of plymouth allowed their city to turn to shit over the years post ww2.

Who knows? The city has kept voting Tories and Lib Dems for decades and decades and wondering why nothing changes. At least Luke Pollard seems to always raise issues in Parliament related to Plymouth, unlike the others.

I think fundamentally Westminster will never invest here, we've got to try and create our own opportunities and encourage entrepreneurial practices, invest in culture, encourage Uni students to stay in the city and start businesses etc.

Labour have fecked this city over just as much over the years.

Yep – which is why we need to do it ourselves. No one else will.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:23 pm

Let's build a wall on the east coast of Devon cheers
Or build a wall around London and the so called home counties and let them carry on with the delusion of capitalism while the rest of us carry on with living Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:34 pm

It's not a question of location. It's a question of why a little club like Fleetwood can offer a player higher wages than PAFC

It's a question of why, after 2 cup ties against Liverpool Nathan Blisset is our top signing.

If Yeovil get a draw against Man U, will they splash the cash on trying to buy Nathan?
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:45 pm

zyph wrote:
Railway can be washed away to the outside world.

City of a quarter of a million have to depend on Exeter or Newquay for air flight.

Motorways...you must be joking.....not allowed.

How has Plymouth ever attracted employment...that's why so many moved to London.

Ok if you want to sail to Spain.


You are not wrong there.

A new name for Plymouth would be "the place that time forgot", apt considering. The city is so far behind the other major UK cities, it is embarrassing.

Plymouth has a lot to offer and if it had a council that really wanted to put the city well and truly on the world map, they could get on with it and unlock so much. Plymouth needs to be dragged into the 21st century.

Still, there is always 2020 ?. Whatever that pulls in.



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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:47 pm

VillageGreen wrote:
zyph wrote:
Railway can be washed away to the outside world.

City of a quarter of a million have to depend on Exeter or Newquay for air flight.

Motorways...you must be joking.....not allowed.

How has Plymouth ever attracted employment...that's why so many moved to London.

Ok if you want to sail to Spain.


You are not wrong there.

A new name for Plymouth would be "the place that time forgot", apt considering. The city is so far behind the other major UK cities, it is embarrassing.

Plymouth has a lot to offer and if it had a council that really wanted to put the city well and truly on the world map, they could unlock so much.

Still, there is always 2020 ?.


Exeter is miles ahead of where Plymouth should be.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:09 pm

Angry wrote:
VillageGreen wrote:
zyph wrote:
Railway can be washed away to the outside world.

City of a quarter of a million have to depend on Exeter or Newquay for air flight.

Motorways...you must be joking.....not allowed.

How has Plymouth ever attracted employment...that's why so many moved to London.

Ok if you want to sail to Spain.


You are not wrong there.

A new name for Plymouth would be "the place that time forgot", apt considering. The city is so far behind the other major UK cities, it is embarrassing.

Plymouth has a lot to offer and if it had a council that really wanted to put the city well and truly on the world map, they could unlock so much.

Still, there is always 2020 ?.


Exeter is miles ahead of where Plymouth should be.


Granted, Exeter is moving forward. They have a decent shopping experience in place and one or two shops/stores are there that are not here. One store is John Lewis. I heard that they said that they will not put a store in Plymouth as there is no money in the city ?.

Go further up to say Bristol and it really is another world. That city has changed and moved on very quickly over the years. Travel further up and over to the far off East, and it gets more modern.

There is a good number of well informed and mobile  people who are living up the line (outside of Devon and Cornwall), who just see Plymouth as a seaside place (mind you, there are decent numbers who have no idea where Plymouth is) , somewhere to quickly visit while on holiday or quickly drive through on the way to Cornwall.


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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:14 pm

VillageGreen wrote:
Angry wrote:
VillageGreen wrote:
zyph wrote:
Railway can be washed away to the outside world.

City of a quarter of a million have to depend on Exeter or Newquay for air flight.

Motorways...you must be joking.....not allowed.

How has Plymouth ever attracted employment...that's why so many moved to London.

Ok if you want to sail to Spain.


You are not wrong there.

A new name for Plymouth would be "the place that time forgot", apt considering. The city is so far behind the other major UK cities, it is embarrassing.

Plymouth has a lot to offer and if it had a council that really wanted to put the city well and truly on the world map, they could unlock so much.

Still, there is always 2020 ?.


Exeter is miles ahead of where Plymouth should be.


Granted, Exeter is moving forward. They have a decent shopping experience in place and one or two shops/stores are there that are not here. One store is John Lewis. I heard that they said that they will not put a store in Plymouth as there is no money in the city ?.

Go further up to say Bristol and it really is another world. That city has changed and moved on very quickly over the years. Travel further up and over to the far off East, and it gets more modern.

There is a good number of well informed and mobile  people who are living up the line (outside of Devon and Cornwall), who just see Plymouth as a seaside place (mind you, there are decent numbers who have no idea where Plymouth is) , somewhere to quickly visit while on holiday or quickly drive through on the way to Cornwall. or "the land time forgot".

Let's all drag this place into a more vibrant and interesting place. We can all do something unique.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:18 pm

Plymouth has a lot to offer - what exactly?
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:24 pm

Yes,Plymouth is isolated.

Bit like Fleetwood really.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:25 pm

Argyle_Union wrote:
VillageGreen wrote:
Angry wrote:
VillageGreen wrote:
zyph wrote:
Railway can be washed away to the outside world.

City of a quarter of a million have to depend on Exeter or Newquay for air flight.

Motorways...you must be joking.....not allowed.

How has Plymouth ever attracted employment...that's why so many moved to London.

Ok if you want to sail to Spain.


You are not wrong there.

A new name for Plymouth would be "the place that time forgot", apt considering. The city is so far behind the other major UK cities, it is embarrassing.

Plymouth has a lot to offer and if it had a council that really wanted to put the city well and truly on the world map, they could unlock so much.

Still, there is always 2020 ?.


Exeter is miles ahead of where Plymouth should be.


Granted, Exeter is moving forward. They have a decent shopping experience in place and one or two shops/stores are there that are not here. One store is John Lewis. I heard that they said that they will not put a store in Plymouth as there is no money in the city ?.

Go further up to say Bristol and it really is another world. That city has changed and moved on very quickly over the years. Travel further up and over to the far off East, and it gets more modern.

There is a good number of well informed and mobile  people who are living up the line (outside of Devon and Cornwall), who just see Plymouth as a seaside place (mind you, there are decent numbers who have no idea where Plymouth is) , somewhere to quickly visit while on holiday or quickly drive through on the way to Cornwall. or "the land time forgot".




Let's all drag this place into a more vibrant and interesting place. We can all do something unique.


Some people seem to like the slower pace of life down this way, whether they move here for work or retire. Both Devon and Cornwall will probably not lose that attractive charm to a good many. That is why they do come here.

Plymouth will slowly walk into the years ahead, seeing change over a gradual course.

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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:36 pm

Angry wrote:
VillageGreen wrote:
zyph wrote:
Railway can be washed away to the outside world.

City of a quarter of a million have to depend on Exeter or Newquay for air flight.

Motorways...you must be joking.....not allowed.

How has Plymouth ever attracted employment...that's why so many moved to London.

Ok if you want to sail to Spain.


You are not wrong there.

A new name for Plymouth would be "the place that time forgot", apt considering. The city is so far behind the other major UK cities, it is embarrassing.

Plymouth has a lot to offer and if it had a council that really wanted to put the city well and truly on the world map, they could unlock so much.

Still, there is always 2020 ?.


Exeter is miles ahead of where Plymouth should be.

You mean Exeter is getting an IKEA?
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PostSubject: Re: Isolated Plymouth   Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:56 pm

Same old nonsense and discussion. Isolation has nothing to do with Diagouraga whatsoever.

Green Bay in Wisconsin is just about as isolated as it gets too, with a population half that of Plymouth. Hasn't done the Packers any harm, being one of the most successful NFL teams in history.
And guess what, they're the only team and club that's "non profit" and publicly owned. There's no deceitful squire there snaffling all the excess cake and dispensing his fake wisdom. It's what's called a community club.
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