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PostSubject: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:31 pm

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Pick the bones out of that BS. FFS
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:37 pm

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Premier League football may be beyond Plymouth Argyle while James Brent remains in charge at Home Park, he has admitted.

The Pilgrims chief did not rule out the club reaching the summit of English football in the long-term future because of its catchment area, but accepted it was not an ambition he felt he could deliver.


Brent was talking about the future prospects of Home Park if Argyle look to expand the stadium in the future and whether the proposed ice arena would limit growth.

If the plans to refurbish and extend the current Grandstand receive approval from Plymouth City Council on December 14 the current ground capacity will increase to 18,500.

Further down the line the plan is to fill the corners of Home Park and up the capacity further to 20,000 or more depending on proposals around safe standing.

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James Brent: How I'm paying for £100m developments - and why the share ownership of Argyle has changed
In 2004/05, Argyle’s first season in the Championship with Paul Sturrock, the average home attendance was 16,419. It remained between 10,000 and 14,000 until relegation to League One.

Therefore, Argyle would almost certainly need to be a Premier League outfit to warrant a stadium capacity beyond 25,000.

If the club did pursue that number, the obvious solution would be adding three lots of seating to the Devonport End, Lyndhurst Stand and Barn Park End, according to Brent.

“Those are the easy bits and that will take you into your mid-20,000s. It will take you to well over twice the size of Bournemouth and Stoke’s operated on a similar size for some time,” he said.

“You follow the dream through and we actually get sustainably in the Premier League, I’m not suggesting we’re going to get there, but ruling it out as a possibility is wrong with the catchment we have.

“It’s not an ambition we think we can deliver for the club, but that doesn’t mean it’s not an ambition that ultimately could come to the club.
“If we get sustainably into the Premier League, we get European football, where do you go from there?

“The last place you would actually start is knocking down the current, new Grandstand, which has got the hospitality you really want and you built at significant cost to get there.”

While he is the club’s current owner, Brent understands decisions he makes now will impact the plans of his successors in decades to come.

He believes if the time ever came Argyle needed to go beyond 30,000 or 40,000 in capacity, they would surely be looking at European football and a new home entirely.

“What you do is look at one of the other sides or ultimately, if you wanted to get to a 45,000-seater stadium, then you would start raising the question as to whether you used Home Park as a wonderful training facility for your under-23s and you built something out which was close to the road network,” he said.


“What we need to do is to future-proof to a sensible degree, which we’ve done.

“[If you were] stable, in the Championship, even flirting with the Premier League you wouldn’t want much greater capacity than we currently cater for within the current stadium.

If you go beyond that, that’s a really quality problem to deal with and you clearly have a much more investable opportunity.”


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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:44 pm

Brent states the obvious, LMFAO. Brent is struggling to keep us off the bottome rung of league 1 and if we get relegated this year don't be surprised to follow it up with another one the year after, momentum is everything and we have lost all of ours.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:03 pm

The piece ends with (missing from OP cut and paste)

If you go beyond that, that’s a really quality problem to deal with and you clearly have a much more investable opportunity.”

Brent can almost smell the money......
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:04 pm

Once his money spinner is built he will drop Argyle like a hot potato maybe even quicker than that analogy.

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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:15 pm

PatDunne wrote:
The piece ends with (missing from OP cut and paste)

If you go beyond that, that’s a really quality problem to deal with and you clearly have a much more investable opportunity.”

Brent can almost smell the money......

I've now amended the piece adding your cut and paste to my cut and paste, is it any wonderhese sites are dying?
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:52 pm

It won't be long before the herald is down to accepting adds from the "dark web" and their warez, affraid geek such is their end unavoidable. PiratesRus. Naughty people. Then they'll become the peverell shopper of the internet. The place to go to get the heads up on the latest nail bar near you.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:20 pm

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Once his money spinner is built he will drop Argyle like a hot potato maybe even quicker than that analogy.

Drop Argyle and hand it onto Internet Ian. affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:14 pm

So no ambition for the football club then.

There's a surprise.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:14 pm

It is safe to say that the Championship is beyond his reach also. However, a swift return to League Two is within his limit and that could also (or may be) lead to a spell in the Conference perhaps one day (every other side has paid a visit down there, why not Argyle [SIC]) , which would just about top things off tbh.

Argyle as they stand are a very long way off being a decent League One side. Talk of getting to the Premiership is pie in the sky.  

Until some substantial amounts of money get into the club, the side will probably faff about in League One, League Two and who knows, the Conference. Will Argyle become a Yo-Yo club, up and down like a person having that first taste of suger. What a possible nightmarish future in store then.

The evident lack of decent money for the playing budget is there for all to see. A great number will not see it though, but many others will (and have done).
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:55 pm

You don't say, brent.

L1 is clearly beyond delivery. In fact it seems everything is beyond delivery where brent is concerned. Not fit for purpose. Get out of Argo now.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:12 am

Depressing just to read his never ending waffle. How the feck did they put up with him at Citibank for so long
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:27 am

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Depressing just to read his never ending waffle. How the feck did they put up with him at Citibank for so long
he makes a good cup of tea. popcorn
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:04 am

Satire is dead
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:56 pm

Actually the shyster has been consistent on this theme, I think a few months after he (unfortunately) "saved us" I attended his first public meeting with the fans in the Guildhall. I remember
clearly with the fawning postie sitting beside him and a posse of superfans hanging around Brent saying
he couldn't or wouldn't finance Argyle if they looked likely to head into the top flight, and that someone else would need to come in and finance the club.
On the face of it that maybe seemed realistic, but throughout the meeting I watched Brent's manerisms
and bodily cues and it was evident to me this man was totally disingenuous and subjectively 'a wrongun',
the rest of course is history.
BRENT OUT
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:02 am

akagreengull wrote:
Actually the shyster has been consistent on this theme, I think a few months after he (unfortunately) "saved us" I attended his first public meeting with the fans in the Guildhall. I remember
clearly with the fawning postie sitting beside him and a posse of superfans hanging around Brent saying
he couldn't or wouldn't finance Argyle if they looked likely to head into the top flight, and that someone else would need to come in and finance the club.
On the face of it that maybe seemed realistic, but throughout the meeting I watched Brent's manerisms
and bodily cues and it was evident to me this man was totally disingenuous and subjectively 'a wrongun',
the rest of course is history.
BRENT OUT

Brents absolute raison d'etre is making money. There are two ways he potentially makes that with his involvement with Argyle. Developing in and around the park, or selling PAFC at a profit some time hopefully soon.

His development record is super-laughable, and he refuses to provide the manager with a budget sufficient to get us to a league position whereby the club is seriously worthy of becoming a profitable sale.

In short, the shyster could be here some time. No
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:37 am

Indeed Czarcasm, Brent has no reason to go in the short term , particularly when a majority of the fanbase remain blinkered and apathectic to his activities. He is setting himself up to make money out of land with agreed planning permission, while effectively staying out of the messy side of the football issues.
He also has a fall guy in Adams, if Argyle are relegated and it seems a distinct possibility, sure he can still sit back and soak it up with more false promises to the gullible and appoint another fall guy manager.
We are fooked basically as long as the shysters shananagins continue, sad as it is for the club I've always supported, I don't live my life around Argyle, have already planned to invest my savings from non attendance at HP into watching top flight cricket next season in Taunton.
Consumer choice - I'm sure JB would support that.
COYG cheers
BRENT OUT
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:17 am

Yep. Watching the Pirates is another option. One can get a match ticket and a day return train ticket from Plymouth to Penzance for less than a Home Park ticket.
A third way to make money of course is to bill the club with lots of expenses. I'm sure the habit will have been encouraged at Citibank. I would imagine the new convert to austerity for the masses will of course keep these expenses to the bare bones.
And then there's all those companies desperately needing a plump cash customer.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:37 am

Same with me Beesrus, same price to watch the
Cidermen, Only £13 for advance ticket for a county game and £10.75 on train for me. Only 75p more to
watch top flight cricket than bottom of the league third division football dross.
No brainer innit.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:09 am

might have to join you AKA for the odd day out in Taunton.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:18 am

£6.85 return Plymouth to Penzance with a Devon and Cornwall card. Even room for a pint on the way to the game and still 50 pence change from an Akkeron match ticket.
AND of course you get the semi regular delightfully amusing in a Cornish way pre match entertainment of the Falmouth marine band, who most certainly aren't marines.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:48 am

He's been listening to his janner jamboys too much.Those clowns blame apathetic janners, as did Stapes and this lot think they can grow the fanbase by 'improving the match day experience' lol

The only way the potential fanbase will turn up in great numbers is if they see cash backed ambition. He is too busy milking the club rather than investing even the club's income in it.

Clubs with similar lack of history and attendance potential to us, have had at least two of the three vital components required to awaken the fanbase and get them believing that this time, it probably will happen.

* Wealthy owners willing to invest or bring in more wealth.
* A new or vastly improved stadium, with the capacity to accommodate 25k plus when the roll begins.
* Very astute management of the club, on and off the pitch.

The following clubs were our peers and tick at least two of the boxes. with brent and co, we tick none.

READING HULL SWANSEA BRIGHTON WATFORD BOURNEMOUTH........with Cardiff and Bristol City also on the move.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:58 am

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might have to join you AKA for the odd day out in Taunton.
Yer welcome mate, and after the game at 6pm one can take refuge in the Plough Inn Summerzet CAMRA pub of the year.
Beats the crap Brittannia any day.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:23 pm

akagreengull wrote:
alannotivvy wrote:
might have to join you AKA for the odd day out in Taunton.
Yer welcome mate, and after the game at 6pm one can take refuge in the Plough Inn Summerzet CAMRA pub of the year.
Beats the crap Brittannia any day.

Top pub that one, Ive had some great wobbly afnoons in there.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent admits top flight is beyond delivery with him at the helm.   Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:27 pm

Tis mate, you meet some odballs in there, twenty odd ciders and a few decent cask beers and only a
Give minute stagger to the station.
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