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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:31 pm

How did Stevenage can get a 450K grant and we seem unable to tap anything?
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:49 pm

Have you missed the business rates holidays, the cheap loans, the selling of the stadium for £1.8m, massively below market value ?
And the original horseshoe funding itself included large grants. How much more does a £7 million turnover private company need ?
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:56 pm

If anyone's going to this consultation thing, it might be worth having a read of the first entry for March 23rd (below) because I'm sure there are Board members who would prefer that some of those promises were forgotten...

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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:29 am

FFS, James isn't in it for the money, nor Si, they just want to 'give something back' (as long as the Janners pay for it).
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:51 am

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Have you missed the business rates holidays, the cheap loans, the selling of the stadium for £1.8m, massively below market value ?
And the original horseshoe funding itself included large grants. How much more does a £7 million turnover private company need ?

I haven't missed any of that.  But it's obviously not what I am talking about.  Why don't we have any grants available to us now? Clearly you don't know...   As to how much does a  £7 million private company need - why as much as it can get of course.
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:54 am

Homeslice wrote:
If anyone's going to this consultation thing, it might be worth having a read of the first entry for March 23rd (below) because I'm sure there are Board members who would prefer that some of those promises were forgotten...

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Yep here it is..............."" David Felwick, an Independent Director of Argyle, said: "The Independent Directors have reviewed these transactions in accordance with PAFC's corporate governance regime. The football club has not only received full value for the land today (HHP) but has also secured the right to have a new grandstand built or, failing that, receive profits from any development. In this way, Plymouth Argyle will receive benefit from any development but will bear none of the costs or risks associated with it."

feck off Brent you devious shyster.....
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:09 am

But he doesn't state what land the deal is related to?  The land sold to Brent for his pension pot or the land for the Grandstand (or any developement?).  It all in the context....  

Someone just need to ask for a clarification, and surely it must be in official records?
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:47 am

As with all the modern wording of such "private public finance initiatives" it ain't worth a hill of beans, as we found out with the Oldway Manor fiasco. In the end, the private party to the contract/understanding can just fold and sail away laden down with as much as they can carry. At least Torbay stood up to Brent and his mission creep and showed him the door. PCC also took Brent's status away from the Civic Centre buildings.

We all know PCC were involved in the whole rescue package ( in fact THEY saved us), so I would imagine they won't be best pleased if Brent is trying to wriggle out of his commitment. Seems clear enough that a new grandstand should be built. These agreements are supposed to be built on trust and mutual advantage, but modern thinking has changed. Effix' are out the window, it's a gold rush as people try and hoover up publicly owned assets. There may well be rumblings of discontent somewhere within the council, Tory headed or no. Shorely, they must understand if this gets planning permission, Brent will have "done his deal" and a new grandstand will never materialise.
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:12 pm

beesrus wrote:
As with all the modern wording of such "private public finance initiatives" it ain't worth a hill of beans, as we found out with the Oldway Manor fiasco. In the end, the private party to the contract/understanding can just fold and sail away laden down with as much as they can carry. At least Torbay stood up to Brent and his mission creep and showed him the door. PCC also took Brent's status away from the Civic Centre buildings.

We all know PCC were involved in the whole rescue package ( in fact THEY saved us), so I would imagine they won't be best pleased if Brent is trying to wriggle out of his commitment. Seems clear enough that a new grandstand should be built. These agreements are supposed to be built on trust and mutual advantage, but modern thinking has changed. Effix' are out the window, it's a gold rush as people try and hoover up publicly owned assets. There may well be rumblings of discontent somewhere within the council, Tory headed or no. Shorely, they must understand if this gets planning permission, Brent will have "done his deal" and a new grandstand will never materialise.

Strange how other clubs in the football league and out of it seem to get on and improve infrastructure and facilities, build stands and develop their business models - but then this is Brent's Argyle.
There will be plenty of the gullible fanbase at the theatre of dreams on Friday still believing they as fans will be getting some kind of new stand instead of the 'renovated' asbestos ridden rust heap that the shyster is trying to convince publicly he will be completing by 2020.

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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:44 pm

Simon Hallett must be well chuffed to see his 5 mill lumped in with some never to materialise shite from Brenty.

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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:50 pm

seadog wrote:
Simon Hallett must be well chuffed to see his 5 mill lumped in with some never to materialise shite from Brenty.

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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:04 pm

his Missus will be giving him a right nagging
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:02 pm

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his Missus will be giving him a right nagging
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:06 pm

Updated plans issued on the OS!
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:52 pm

ARGYLE supporters and the general public have their first chance to see the latest plans for the Mayflower grandstand redevelopment and associated developments at Home Park this weekend.

Argyle and Akkeron Group begin a public consultation on Friday, when people will be able to study up-to-the-minute designs, as well as speak to professionals leading the project.

The public consultation begins at 1pm on Friday, a few hours before Argyle’s Home Park pre-season friendly against Championship side Cardiff City.

Plans will be on display in the Players' Lounge until 4pm, while project director Tony Hopwood and architect Richard Cord will be on hand to answer questions and talk about the plans.

The consultation – in support of the club’s forthcoming submission of a planning application for the project – reopens at 10am on Saturday, July 22 and runs until 1.45pm.

The planning application will include both the new Grandstand redevelopment and wider development on sites adjacent to Home Park, which will include an ice-rink.

Argyle chairman James Brent said: "What we’re presenting over the next couple of days are full plans, not just for the grandstand but setting that in the context of Higher Home Park and an additional piece of land that we that we have agreed, subject to planning, so people will be able to see the total picture.

"The grandstand is clearly the core feature within it, but it also includes the proposed new ice-rink for Plymouth, which, in its own right, is very exciting because it will give us the only ice-rink west of Cardiff; and it will give those wonderful ice-skaters of all ages who’ve been practicing for so long to play a competitive match with an international standard ice-rink to play on.

"The additional piece of land is the old vets site which runs alongside the front of the Life Centre, so there is a commercial development plan for that site, including a new vet practice.

"There will be lots of plans, lots of pictures and I'm really keen to take lots of questions. I’m hoping to spend a bit of time on Saturday with the consultation, being able to answer questions myself, personally, as well. I'm very much looking forward to it."

The Mayflower grandstand plans reflect a long process of discussion, including with a working group comprising Argyle supporters.

James said: "Clearly we’re operating within a budget, as everyone will understand, and if we had a higher budget, we would no doubt have even better facilities

"But, within the budget, I think we’ve got a really good solution and it does create the balance that we sought to achieve from day one of preserving the history of Argyle and respecting the history of Home Park in terms of the facade, the shape of the Leitch building, and so on. But, at the same time, providing modern facilities that families, and supporters generally, deserve in the 21st century."

Following the consultation process, at 2pm, the Argyle Board of Directors are staging a Fans’ Forum at the ground, during which the Green Army can quiz the Pilgrims’ hierarchy on the grandstand and other club issues.

For supporters who cannot make the forum, the club is planning to make it a Facebook Live event on facebook.com/plymouthargylefc.
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:00 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:06 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:10 pm

Absolutely Tg. Since when has Brent owned this land, which of course, he doesn't. We all know negotiations are ongoing but this is ridiculous. I cant imagine FOCP will be pleased.


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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:10 pm

Its Mankover son of Ministand, after much consultation with myself would it be rude of me to tell Jimmy where to shove hhp2?
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:17 pm

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Absolutely Tg. Since when has Brent owned this land, which of course, he doesn't. We all know negotiations are ongoing but this is ridiculous. I cant imagine FOCP will be pleased.

They are very quiet, they had a private viewing this week and I been waiting to hear. very disappointed with them.

This new cafe Brent is planning to build will hit the one the focp are planning
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:19 pm

And is the cafe marked on the plan the same cafe as the park cafe being talked about under the £11m park refurb ? Surely not, and if so, what a disaster. It might as well be in the middle of the main road junction, in fact it is.
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:21 pm

The positioning of a park cafe was talked about when I attended one of the "council"'s walk and talk consultations. No way would park users want a cafe in this position.
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:24 pm

Bet James wants the council tax payer to pay for Outland road junction improvements.....
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:29 pm

What a magnificent 'ice arena' shoehorned into hhp.....capacity 85ish by the look of it, there goes any chance of a competitive ice hockey team for the muff.
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PostSubject: Re: Consultation....   Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:31 pm

I can't believe the Hotel hasn't been mentioned yet. Your thoughts Beezy?
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