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PostSubject: Argyle v Peter Read next season   Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:25 pm

Peter Reid admits he would be prepared to make a return to management with Bolton in Sky Bet League One next term.

The 59-year-old former Manchester City, Sunderland and Leeds boss has not taken charge of a club in England since a spell with Plymouth between 2010 and 2011, yet he returned to Wanderers in March in an advisory capacity to help interim manager Jimmy Phillips.

The pair were unable to turn around Bolton's fortunes as they were relegated into the third tier having finished bottom of the Championship.

However, with chairman Ken Anderson and chief executive Dean Holdsworth still seeking a permanent successor to Neil Lennon, Reid has confirmed he would be willing to discuss taking charge of the club where his professional playing career began in 1974.

"If I got offered a chance to sit down and talk, I'd do it," he said at a charity game staged at the Macron Stadium on Saturday.

"It's a big job but I have had plenty of them in football. I have always been a competitor and certainly this job is a competitive one.

"It's a great club, I signed as an apprentice aged 15 in 1971 and still live around here so I have a lot of love for it.
"It's sad what has happened but you can't dwell on the past. They have a decision to make on the manager over the next couple of weeks which is very important, they have to get it right.

"The supporters have had three or four seasons where they are not used to winning, so have the players. You have to change that mentality.

"The football club has been through a really difficult spell in the last couple of years as we all know but there have been clubs in worse situations which are now looking strong, Bournemouth and Swansea for example, so hopefully it's the beginning of a new era, a new start.
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PostSubject: Re: Argyle v Peter Read next season   Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:46 pm

Bolton could do alot better if they are indeed looking for a new manager.
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PostSubject: Re: Argyle v Peter Read next season   Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:36 pm

Reid was a bit of a legend as a player at Bolton, remember him playing at HP in an excellent Bolton team before he went to Everton and won just about everything there was to win. The ex player scenario can work either way-certainly Sheridan seems to have found his spiritual home at Oldham and the same for Wilder at Sheffield United, never seems to work at Argyle though as Mariner,Hodges,McCall,Fletcher etc would confirm. Best thing Reid did at Argyle was to sign Hourihane but he was crippled by the most difficult circumstances of any Argyle manager in my experience, can't really say if he would have been successful or not given a fair wind. Would be very surprised if he got the Bolton job but stranger things have happened.
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PostSubject: Re: Argyle v Peter Read next season   Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:41 pm

Hang on a minute...Phil Parkinson is Bolton's manager-has he left or something? Can't see anything on t'internet-could the article be a bit of old news from last year? confused
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PostSubject: Re: Argyle v Peter Read next season   Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:15 pm

You could be write.
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PostSubject: Re: Argyle v Peter Read next season   Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:41 pm

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Reid was a bit of a legend as a player at Bolton, remember him playing at HP in an excellent Bolton team before he went to Everton and won just about everything there was to win. The ex player scenario can work either way-certainly Sheridan seems to have found his spiritual home at Oldham and the same for Wilder at Sheffield United, never seems to work at Argyle though as Mariner,Hodges,McCall,Fletcher etc would confirm. Best thing Reid did at Argyle was to sign Hourihane but he was crippled by the most difficult circumstances of any Argyle manager in my experience, can't really say if he would have been successful or not given a fair wind. Would be very surprised if he got the Bolton job but stranger things have happened.

he was an overrated manager and remembered fondly here purely for paying a gas bill with a runner up medal he sold and got back very quickly.

Even before the Admin era began the team he had which included BWP, Noone, Mason, Arnason, Bolasie, Reda Johnson, Bhasera, Zubar and Fletcher he struggled to get results fitting for a side with those standards of player. That was before the club was forced to sell players and not pay them. He also practically gave Brighton Ashley Barnes aswell which was a stupid move especially for how little he went.

Signing Hourihane was the best thing he did i agree and sacking him was right too however not in the way that it was done given who took over.
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PostSubject: Re: Argyle v Peter Read next season   Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:34 pm

Reid's team was only relegated due to the 10 point deduction so it could be argued that he did OK as our manager and the rot, none of which was down to him, had set in before he arrived and we were a dead man walking. Basically he was asked to do the impossible and didn't do too badly considering. Were it not for the financial shenanigans his tenure would probably be regarded more positively and who knows what he might have achieved?

He was also a damned good player in his day. Very under-rated. The best thing that happened to England in the '86 World Cup was Robson getting crocked and Wilkins getting sent off. In came Reid and Steve Hodge and all of a sudden we went from also-rans to like we might win the tournament.

Like Colin whenever we get mentioned by him it is favourable and positive. I like him.

That said we should never forget that we were a complete Old Shep case by the time Reid went. Fletcher worked a bloody miracle on his appointment to keep us in Div 4. Looking back now it just does not compute. How the bloody hell did that even happen?
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PostSubject: Re: Argyle v Peter Read next season   Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:44 pm

I was told he bought a can of calor gas costing £25. I think he showed up here totally unprepared for the level of farce going on behind the scenes and once he realised he was only too quick to show up for the many media gigs that being an employed manager with the friends he had offered him

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PostSubject: Re: Argyle v Peter Read next season   Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:13 am

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Reid's team was only relegated due to the 10 point deduction so it could be argued that he did OK as our manager and the rot, none of which was down to him, had set in before he arrived and we were a dead man walking. Basically he was asked to do the impossible and didn't do too badly considering. Were it not for the financial shenanigans his tenure would probably be regarded more positively and who knows what he might have achieved?

He was also a damned good player in his day. Very under-rated. The best thing that happened to England in the '86 World Cup was Robson getting crocked and Wilkins getting sent off. In came Reid and Steve Hodge and all of a sudden we went from also-rans to like we might win the tournament.

Like Colin whenever we get mentioned by him it is favourable and positive. I like him.

That said we should never forget that we were a complete Old Shep case by the time Reid went. Fletcher worked a bloody miracle on his appointment to keep us in Div 4. Looking back now it just does not compute. How the bloody hell did that even happen?

If he struggled to get anything from the squad he had before the meltdown its safe to say had he been afforded cash in january he wouldn't have done much better than mid table.


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PostSubject: Re: Argyle v Peter Read next season   Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:21 pm

I think a lot of the said players didnt like him specially on the training pitch.screaming & shouting at em they described him as having little man syndrome..lol
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PostSubject: Re: Argyle v Peter Read next season   Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:17 pm

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I think a lot of the said players didnt like him specially on the training pitch.screaming & shouting at em they described him as having little man syndrome..lol

I remember one of Swindon's players moaning about Hoddle and his training sessions when he was manager there. "He'd say "we're going to do this because of this" then get somebody to throw a ball at him which he would control and pass 40 yards to within an inch of the intended target. Perfect. "That's the drill. Get on with it." Cue mayhem and carnage as mis-controlled balls bounced hither and thither and lusty shouts of "ave it!" as the 40 yarder was punted hopefully in the general direction.

Imagine how frustrating it must be to have your reputation on the line and defended by a bunch of cloggers who just can't perform even the simplest of skills that Reidy as a player once did without so much as a thought.

I guess that's why some managers are like Mourinho and others are like Sheridan.
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PostSubject: Re: Argyle v Peter Read next season   Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:14 am

I think the 11 red cards we had during Reid's full season in charge played as big a part in our relegation as the 10 point deduction.
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PostSubject: Re: Argyle v Peter Read next season   Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:29 am

Sir Francis Drake wrote:
RegGreen wrote:
I think a lot of the said players didnt like him specially on the training pitch.screaming & shouting at em they described him as having little man syndrome..lol

I remember one of Swindon's players moaning about Hoddle and his training sessions when he was manager there. "He'd say "we're going to do this because of this" then get somebody to throw a ball at him which he would control and pass 40 yards to within an inch of the intended target. Perfect. "That's the drill. Get on with it." Cue mayhem and carnage as mis-controlled balls bounced hither and thither and lusty shouts of "ave it!" as the 40 yarder was punted hopefully in the general direction.

Imagine how frustrating it must be to have your reputation on the line and defended by a bunch of cloggers who just can't perform even the simplest of skills that Reidy as a player once did without so much as a thought.

I guess that's why some managers are like Mourinho and others are like Sheridan.

Tbf, comparing Glenn Hoddle with Peter Reid isn't a million miles away from comparing Mourinho with Sheridan.
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PostSubject: Re: Argyle v Peter Read next season   Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:51 pm

consider that bolalsie mackie were 'raw talent', bwp amd seip weren't interested.
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PostSubject: Re: Argyle v Peter Read next season   Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:57 pm

Peter Reid was a good player and managed reasonably well with a big budget.

BUT.....he had no idea how to manage in the lower leagues.

I can remember sitting behind the dug-out at Gillingham and watching him looking totally lost and didn't have any idea what to do with the remnant of a team we put out that day....losing 3-0.....ok not many would do better I expect.

What I do remember his that his heart was in the right place....and how he paid for the heating for the staff.
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