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PostSubject: Re: Hourihane went to Villa for £500,000   Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:25 pm

Innocent Egbunike wrote:
*IF* the sell-on clause was 20%, it would seem most likely to me that the fee paid by Villa was 700K, making Argyle's cut 100K (700K minus 200K already paid to Argyle by Barnsley multiplied by 20%).

700K seems low though, doesn't it? Perhaps our clause was only 10%, which would put the Barnsley/Villa deal at 1.2m....or the reported 1.25m, as our share was 'in excess of 100K' i.e only a few quid more than that.

I hope you have a tin hat and full body armour. How dare you suggest such a thing!

I pretty much agree though. £500,000 just doesn't seem right in comparison to other known fees for similar transfers.
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PostSubject: Re: Hourihane went to Villa for £500,000   Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:18 pm

The idea of Barnsley and Villa juggling the 2 t/f fees to avoid large sell-on is not the first in history. Lallana and Lambert was thought to have been juggled at Saints to avoid some of the sell-on to Bournemouth.
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PostSubject: Re: Hourihane went to Villa for £500,000   Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:53 am

Sir Francis Drake wrote:
Innocent Egbunike wrote:
*IF* the sell-on clause was 20%, it would seem most likely to me that the fee paid by Villa was 700K, making Argyle's cut 100K (700K minus 200K already paid to Argyle by Barnsley multiplied by 20%).

700K seems low though, doesn't it? Perhaps our clause was only 10%, which would put the Barnsley/Villa deal at 1.2m....or the reported 1.25m, as our share was 'in excess of 100K' i.e only a few quid more than that.

I hope you have a tin hat and full body armour. How dare you suggest such a thing!

I pretty much agree though. £500,000 just doesn't seem right in comparison to other known fees for similar transfers.

I think 1.2 million seems about right. Hourihane is a very tidy championship midfielder with a reasonablish goalscoring rate, however he is 26 so not likely to have too much resale value.

Did we do something similar with Jamie Mackie when he got sold to QPR?

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PostSubject: Re: Hourihane went to Villa for £500,000   Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:20 am

The time to get your recompence is when you sell. It has long been argued the sell on clause was invented to cover the blushes of the selling club getting a poor deal from the bigger fish, with the reality often being less favourable than that inferred at the time. Classic "'cover my back'.
And yes, Mackie rings a bell.
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PostSubject: Re: Hourihane went to Villa for £500,000   Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:05 pm

The other one that springs to mind is Gosling. If you remember he allowed his contract to run down with Everton, as he was under 24 they would have been entitled to compensation of £4 million and we would have been entitled to part of that as a sell on clause. Unfortunately Everton didn't put their contract offer into writing and he was allowed to move on a Bosman with no compensation payable.

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PostSubject: Re: Hourihane went to Villa for £500,000   Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:25 pm

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How much Plymouth Argyle are actually set to pocket from Conor Hourihane deal

PLYMOUTH Argyle are expected to receive in excess of £100,000 as part of the deal which took former captain Conor Hourihane from Barnsley to Aston Villa.

The 26-year-old, who has made two appearances for Steve Bruce’s side since arriving last month, signed a three-and-a-half-year deal after the Tykes accepted an undisclosed fee.

In the near-three years the Irishman spent at Home Park from August 2011, he markedly improved and became the Pilgrims’ skipper before departing in May 2014 for League One Barnsley in a deal around £200,000.
However, while that reported fee was scoffed at by fans at the time, the club reiterated it was put in a tight position by want-away Hourihane, but did include a number of sell-on percentages and clauses in the deal.

Those plans have now come to fruition and while estimates of the fee Villa paid Barnsley vary, it is understood Argyle will receive in excess of £100,000 for the set-piece specialist.

The fee adds to what has been an extremely profitable season for the Pilgrims thus far, with at least £200,000 coming from Oxford United for Curtis Nelson, approximately £1m from the two Liverpool matches and reportedly £300,000 for Ben Purrington from Rotherham United.

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PostSubject: Re: Hourihane went to Villa for £500,000   Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:35 pm

RegGreen wrote:
BBC1 wrote:
Tgwu wrote:

How much Plymouth Argyle are actually set to pocket from Conor Hourihane deal

PLYMOUTH Argyle are expected to receive in excess of £100,000 as part of the deal which took former captain Conor Hourihane from Barnsley to Aston Villa.

The 26-year-old, who has made two appearances for Steve Bruce’s side since arriving last month, signed a three-and-a-half-year deal after the Tykes accepted an undisclosed fee.

In the near-three years the Irishman spent at Home Park from August 2011, he markedly improved and became the Pilgrims’ skipper before departing in May 2014 for League One Barnsley in a deal around £200,000.
However, while that reported fee was scoffed at by fans at the time, the club reiterated it was put in a tight position by want-away Hourihane, but did include a number of sell-on percentages and clauses in the deal.

Those plans have now come to fruition and while estimates of the fee Villa paid Barnsley vary, it is understood Argyle will receive in excess of £100,000 for the set-piece specialist.

The fee adds to what has been an extremely profitable season for the Pilgrims thus far, with at least £200,000 coming from Oxford United for Curtis Nelson, approximately £1m from the two Liverpool matches and reportedly £300,000 for Ben Purrington from Rotherham United.

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PostSubject: Re: Hourihane went to Villa for £500,000   Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:04 pm

Hugh Watt wrote:
The other one that springs to mind is Gosling. If you remember he allowed his contract to run down with Everton, as he was under 24 they would have been entitled to compensation of £4 million and we would have been entitled to part of that as a sell on clause. Unfortunately Everton didn't put their contract offer into writing and he was allowed to move on a Bosman with no compensation payable.

He gets off remarkably lightly for screwing us over with that stunt.
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PostSubject: Re: Hourihane went to Villa for £500,000   Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:44 am

Played last night in the 3-1 home defeat to........... Barnsley.

What a basket case of a club Villa are.
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