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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:20 pm

You're wrong about tomorrow night though Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:42 pm

Hmmm maybe, its a game of opinions, and me personally would play in exactly the same way as the anfield game. If argyle let liverpool in around the back they have the quality to punish you in the blink of an eye.

Bodys behind the ball, make liverpool work for it and see where the game goes from there.

That would be what i do....even if the devil inside me is saying '' have a go''
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:27 pm

Dane. wrote:
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If a late smash and grab is ok, what's wrong with going for an early one.
As for penalties, they will have far too much composure and technique with penalties. It would be like England fluffing against Germany. No chance.

A penalty Shoot out is a 12 yard lottery. doesnt matter what level you play at when it comes to pens, its a leveller! If argyle go looking for an early goal they will get picked off. Keep it tight for as long as possible, have a little sniff in the last 10 minutes, Key is to stay in the game for as long as possible.

It isn't. Some players can kick a ball with more accuracy than others. It will be virtually the same side as at Anfield as they have 5 fixtures in the next 18 days, plus most of their squad will be on international duty so 6. Any 3 from lallana/Sturrige/Firmino or Coutinho may come on if its still tight after the hour mark.

Well i think i can take a penalty just as well as any professional, the main difference in a pressure cooker situation will be the mental aspect.

This isn't a pressure cooker for the likes of Liverpool, they have far bigger games every week.
The penalty "lottery" advice is the sort of advice that put paid to Cullompton's chances of anything.
Sometimes too much discipline is a bad thing for players' heads. Sometimes you just have to trust them to flower as best they can. By starting in such a manner, they give themselves a chance of getting their heads right from the outset. Adjustments can always be made.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:53 pm

oh right....so a premier league player finding himself in the lottery of a penalty shoot out with a league 2 club isn't going to feel any pressure ?

Why are you mentioning cullompton by the way ?

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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:16 pm

I reckon Adams will go very similar to the Anfield game - so long as it stays 0-0. If they take the lead early you could see a totally different game, and result. Stevenage created 17 chances. If we come out and lose our defensive discipline, it could be 1-5 on the cards.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:33 pm

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oh right....so a premier league player finding himself in the lottery of a penalty shoot out with a league 2 club isn't going to feel any pressure ?

Why are you mentioning cullompton by the way ?


It's not a lottery in the slightest. Why do you think the Germans are so good at them?

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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:37 pm

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Defend the 1st half but a little better than they did at Anfield what i mean is close em down more and be in there faces. Then if we are lucky enough to go in 0-0 at H/T and lucky enough to win the toss then go out 2nd half and attack the demport end SHIT OR BUST Throw everythink at em  including the kitchen and just HOPE!!
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If we go all out from the start we could easily concede early doors and then we'll have no choice but to go all out ... and concede.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:59 pm

first half hold them off on the hour throw all kinds of shit their way,
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:15 pm

The gameplan has to be one that instills confidence in the Argyle players to hold onto the ball, and think before they kick. Three touches in the Liverpool box in 90 minutes is an appalling statistic. No one wins games playing like that.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:39 pm

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The gameplan has to be one that instills confidence in the Argyle players to hold onto the ball, and think before they kick. Three touches in the Liverpool box  in 90 minutes is an appalling statistic. No one wins games playing like that.

Gung ho! Always been very successful for Argyle in matches at HP against superior opposition. Such as when they lost 6-1 to Newcastle. Or 5-1 to West Brom. Or 5-1 to Spurs. Or 6-1 to Arsenal. Very romantic stuffings they all must have been.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:47 pm

They've been stuffed just as many times while cowering in a corner.
It's the Janner mentality it would seem, from this thread.

Argyle can't go gung ho as you call it, as they won't have the ball long enough. through the 90. What I am saying is press closer on their players, and when they get the ball, actually have a pop, rather than hoof into touch like some frightened schoolboys.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:54 pm

I think if Argyle were capable of planning and 'consistently' mounting attacks they would. They just don't have the skill to do it.

Argyle's best and only hope is to defend stoutly and try and catch Liverpool on the break, which proved to be about the only success in attacking Argyle managed in the last game.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:17 pm

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They've been stuffed just as many times while cowering in a corner.
It's the Janner mentality it would seem, from this thread.

Argyle can't go gung ho as you call it, as they won't have the ball long enough. through the 90. What I am saying is press closer on their players, and when they get the ball, actually have a pop, rather than hoof into touch like some frightened schoolboys.

Such as when? It's nothing to do with the "janner mentality", unless that involves an honest assessment that a team which will probably include 5 full internationals in the starting line up [as an aside, noticeable that Alexander-Arnold played well against Manchester United, very good for a "kid"]is likely to possess sufficient technical ability, pace and movement to potentially hand out drubbing to a collection of free transfer players operating at three levels below them, no matter how much they press the ball. Anyway, all will be revealed tomorrow night.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:34 am

Listening to Adams on radio Devon an hour ago he clearly said argyle will go defensive again and catch them on the break.
Of course he could be bullshitting and we go at them from the first whistle.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:59 am

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Listening to Adams on radio Devon an hour ago he clearly said argyle will go defensive again and catch them on the break.
Of course he could be bullshitting and we go at them from the first whistle.
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Not sure if he's being clever or stupid.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:07 am

Les Miserable wrote:
akagreengull wrote:
Listening to Adams on radio Devon an hour ago he clearly said argyle will go defensive again and catch them on the break.
Of course he could be bullshitting and we go at them from the first whistle.
COYG


Not sure if he's being clever or stupid.

Only he knows, he said "We can't be too cavalier against a team second in the top league".
So draw your own conclusions. All will be revealed tonight.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:13 am

As i alluded too, only a fool would go after Liverpool in this circumstance.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:28 am

No guts no glory.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:44 am

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No guts no glory.

Equally - no brains - no glory

All these people thinking Argyle should get right on the front foot from the off, are thinking with the heart not the head, it would be suicide.

Take a deep breath people and just enjoy the ride.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:50 am

Dane. wrote:
Les Miserable wrote:
No guts no glory.

Equally - no brains - no glory

All these people thinking Argyle should get right on the front foot from the off, are thinking with the heart not the head, it would be suicide


Wouldn't have wanted to be in the trenches with you a century ago flower
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:26 am

ha, if you were the manager this isnt the time for heart over head.

Im hearing Sturridge, Klavan, Lucas and coutiniho are the senior players that have traveled.

Unfortunately for argyle i think Coutiniho will play as he needs minutes in his comeback from injury.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:43 am

Even the lesser premiership teams dare not be 'open' when they take on the big boys. What chance would we have?
An early goal for Liverpool would be our worst nightmare and an exhibition display might follow. Adams ain't stupid. A 6-0 drubbing could damage us mentally for the rest of the season.
He will surely look to repeat the Anfield tactics and rely on any set play we manage to win.
Much depends on the team Klopp puts out.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:15 pm

After taking "legal advice", Matip isn't traveling. I'm in agreement with Les and Rollo, who can forget Liverpools tactics against Real Madrid a few years back or most Mourinho teams against Barcelona.

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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:46 pm

Argyle need to be higher up than the last game. They need to get some confidence on the ball. if they are to work a couple of shys on goal, rather than just hoping for a Carey dig from a free kick.

Dane, you play cricket. If you're facing a class bowler, you don't go on the back foot in front of your wicket. Foot to the pitch of the ball, anticipate the back lift and clatter him through the covers. Take that yer big nancy. If there's an unplayable ball, no amount of defence will keep it out.
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PostSubject: Re: What tactics would you employ against Liverpool ?   Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:14 pm

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Argyle need to be higher up than the last game. They need to get some confidence on the ball. if they are to work a couple of shys on goal, rather than just hoping for a Carey dig from a free kick.

Dane, you play cricket. If you're facing a class bowler, you don't go on the back foot in front of your wicket. Foot to the pitch of the ball, anticipate the back lift and clatter him through the covers. Take that yer big nancy. If there's an unplayable ball, no amount of defence will keep it out.

Thanks for the Cricket example, but i haven't played cricket for years,

Klopps game plan is and always will be to win the ball back as quickly as possible, his teams dont give you a second to breath, so you need to be really good in possession and that isnt something you can turn on and off like a tap. because if you push on and leave space in behind and lose the ball, liverpool have the players to get in behind and punish you within a blink of the eye.

As someone said, there are teams in the premier league that wouldn't set out to go for the throat vs liverpool so Adams wont! I bet his game plan will be to keep it as tight as possible for as long as possible, and hope that there is a breakaway or set piece argyle can benefit from.
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